Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2022, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Forgetting you don’t have a QB? Forgetting you don’t have anyone that has a proven set of reliable hands to catch passes from the QB you don’t have?

WE don't know that we don't have a QB. I would imagine in due time we'll know something on that front.

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2022, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Maybe he will, maybe that’s what he did with the Raiders that kept his record under .300. Dennis is in damage control and will say anything to quiet the press hoard.

Dennis Allen, Raiders coach, won't call defensive plays

Published: Aug 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Allen has a difficult task with this Raiders team. He's changing schemes dramatically on both sides of the ball without the benefit of many new players.

In that situation, most coaches would try to do everything to make their imprint on the squad by calling plays. By controlling everything possible. Allen won't go that route.

Defensive coordinator Jason Tarver will call the defense. Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp will call the offense.

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Also note that the Saints defense went to hell in a handbasket in 2012 when DA left.

Allen was under .300 because he had no players in place to run his defense. He has nothing but his players in place here in New Orleans. Incredibly huge difference.

Boston Saint · 02-09-2022, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Maybe he will, maybe that’s what he did with the Raiders that kept his record under .300. Dennis is in damage control and will say anything to quiet the press hoard.

IDK Oak. Let’s give the guy a try. Plenty of guys did better in their second stint as a coach. D and special teams should still be strengths. Hopefully Oline is healthy and Thomas goes back to playing like he did three years ago. Maybe they will go get an outside big name OC that can attract a QB and other players.

The Kamara situation really hurts. Now the team has to look at adding backfield talent as much as, if not more so, than WR. That’s why I mentioned Phillips Lindsay in a different thread. He reminds me a bit of a poor man’s Pierre Thomas.

But without Brady, Tampa will likely suck. The division is still ours for the taking. Unless Tampa goes out and gets Rodgers or Wilson or Murray to replace Brady. That would suck.

saintfan · 02-09-2022, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

WE don't know that we don't have a QB. I would imagine in due time we'll know something on that front.

Seriously? What's the alternative speedo, that we will never know?

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2022, 12:33 PM

One thing to note is that the Rooney Rule now applies to Coordinator hires, as well. If Marrone has been officially hired it couldn't be for the OC position without the proper procedures being completed.

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2022, 12:38 PM

MatthewT · 02-09-2022, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

One thing to note is that the Rooney Rule now applies to Coordinator hires, as well. If Marrone has been officially hired it couldn't be for the OC position without the proper procedures being completed.

Do you happen to know if interviews for Head Coach go towards satisfying the Rooney Rule for coordinators, specifically can the Saints claim they discussed both HC and OC with Eric B, or does another separate round of interviews need to take place?

AsylumGuido · 02-09-2022, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Do you happen to know if interviews for Head Coach go towards satisfying the Rooney Rule for coordinators, specifically can the Saints claim they discussed both HC and OC with Eric B, or does another separate round of interviews need to take place?

I've been searching for that and have a question out to Kat Terrell about that very thing, Matthew. I have a feeling that the team must log a position specific interview request with the league, but not sure.

saintfan · 02-09-2022, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

One thing to note is that the Rooney Rule now applies to Coordinator hires, as well. If Marrone has been officially hired it couldn't be for the OC position without the proper procedures being completed.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I've been searching for that and have a question out to Kat Terrell about that very thing, Matthew. I have a feeling that the team must log a position specific interview request with the league, but not sure.

Yes, you stole Kat's tweet from 4 hours ago and didn't advise here or link back, although it wasn't a direct quote. You just wanted to look smart. Just wow. You contributed the "one thing to note as well" part to make yourself look smart? Seriously? What an immoral little douche.

You're quite the piece of work speedo. If not for twitter you couldn't wipe your own

...

Damn near but not quite word for word.

plagiarizing:
take (the work or an idea of someone else) and pass it off as one's own
https://languages.oup.com/google-dictionary-en/

See what I did there? You even suck at being criminal...

https://twitter.com/Kat_Terrell/stat...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

TheOak · 02-09-2022, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

WE don't know that we don't have a QB. I would imagine in due time we'll know something on that front.

Listen Captain Speedtard Obfuscation"We don't know that we don't" is present tense, "we'll know something" is future tense. Keep a roll of Charmin on you so you can wipe your chin after you spew the next line of bassakwards bullsh1t rationalization.

02-09-2022, 11:07 AM	#41
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by TheOak Forgetting you don’t have a QB? Forgetting you don’t have anyone that has a proven set of reliable hands to catch passes from the QB you don’t have? WE don't know that we don't have a QB. I would imagine in due time we'll know something on that front.

02-09-2022, 11:12 AM	#42
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by TheOak Maybe he will, maybe that’s what he did with the Raiders that kept his record under .300. Dennis is in damage control and will say anything to quiet the press hoard. Dennis Allen, Raiders coach, won't call defensive plays Published: Aug 16, 2012 at 11:48 AM Allen has a difficult task with this Raiders team. He's changing schemes dramatically on both sides of the ball without the benefit of many new players. In that situation, most coaches would try to do everything to make their imprint on the squad by calling plays. By controlling everything possible. Allen won't go that route. Defensive coordinator Jason Tarver will call the defense. Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp will call the offense. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Also note that the Saints defense went to hell in a handbasket in 2012 when DA left. Allen was under .300 because he had no players in place to run his defense. He has nothing but his players in place here in New Orleans. Incredibly huge difference.
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02-09-2022, 11:51 AM	#43
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,868	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by TheOak Maybe he will, maybe that’s what he did with the Raiders that kept his record under .300. Dennis is in damage control and will say anything to quiet the press hoard. IDK Oak. Let’s give the guy a try. Plenty of guys did better in their second stint as a coach. D and special teams should still be strengths. Hopefully Oline is healthy and Thomas goes back to playing like he did three years ago. Maybe they will go get an outside big name OC that can attract a QB and other players. The Kamara situation really hurts. Now the team has to look at adding backfield talent as much as, if not more so, than WR. That’s why I mentioned Phillips Lindsay in a different thread. He reminds me a bit of a poor man’s Pierre Thomas. But without Brady, Tampa will likely suck. The division is still ours for the taking. Unless Tampa goes out and gets Rodgers or Wilson or Murray to replace Brady. That would suck. saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido WE don't know that we don't have a QB. I would imagine in due time we'll know something on that front. Seriously? What's the alternative speedo, that we will never know? jnormand, The Dude and K Major like this.

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02-09-2022, 01:02 PM	#47
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido One thing to note is that the Rooney Rule now applies to Coordinator hires, as well. If Marrone has been officially hired it couldn't be for the OC position without the proper procedures being completed. Do you happen to know if interviews for Head Coach go towards satisfying the Rooney Rule for coordinators, specifically can the Saints claim they discussed both HC and OC with Eric B, or does another separate round of interviews need to take place? Crusader and AsylumGuido like this.

02-09-2022, 01:30 PM	#48
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by MatthewT Do you happen to know if interviews for Head Coach go towards satisfying the Rooney Rule for coordinators, specifically can the Saints claim they discussed both HC and OC with Eric B, or does another separate round of interviews need to take place? I've been searching for that and have a question out to Kat Terrell about that very thing, Matthew. I have a feeling that the team must log a position specific interview request with the league, but not sure. MatthewT and Crusader like this.

02-09-2022, 02:06 PM	#49
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido One thing to note is that the Rooney Rule now applies to Coordinator hires, as well. If Marrone has been officially hired it couldn't be for the OC position without the proper procedures being completed. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I've been searching for that and have a question out to Kat Terrell about that very thing, Matthew. I have a feeling that the team must log a position specific interview request with the league, but not sure. Yes, you stole Kat's tweet from 4 hours ago and didn't advise here or link back, although it wasn't a direct quote. You just wanted to look smart. Just wow. You contributed the "one thing to note as well" part to make yourself look smart? Seriously? What an immoral little douche. You're quite the piece of work speedo. If not for twitter you couldn't wipe your own ... Damn near but not quite word for word. plagiarizing: take (the work or an idea of someone else) and pass it off as one's own https://languages.oup.com/google-dictionary-en/ See what I did there? You even suck at being criminal... https://twitter.com/Kat_Terrell/stat...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
	C'mon Man...

02-09-2022, 02:55 PM	#50
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC Originally Posted by AsylumGuido WE don't know that we don't have a QB. I would imagine in due time we'll know something on that front. Listen Captain Speedtard Obfuscation"We don't know that we don't" is present tense, "we'll know something" is future tense. Keep a roll of Charmin on you so you can wipe your chin after you spew the next line of bassakwards bullsh1t rationalization. saintfan likes this.