Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

Isnt the logical thing to speculate that Carmichael has some kind of health or personal issue? It doesnt make sense to turn down a head coaching interview and ask for a demotion because of some grand plan to get the same job he had for 15 years Paytons OC in another city maybe if Payton doesnt end up liking broadcasting or have the current coaches at his ideal landing spots do well and not get fired. If Carmichael takes the interview for head coach maybe he gets hired. Its unpredictable. Allen could have had contract issues or taken another job. Carmichaels interview with the Saints could have led to other interviews and a surprise hire in Houston. Staying as OC and having a head coach interview or two this year, Carmichael could have been a prime candidate for a head coaching gig next year, or parlayed other head coaching interviews into a coordinator gig on a better offense. Turning down interviews and asking for a demotion tells me Carmichaels big ambitions are over and he is winding things down, not that this is all part of the plan to become the next Kellen Moore maybe in a few years.

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

Speculation overload.

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

Or he might not like the way Allen's way of changing the O ? He!! he might not like Allen period? Somethings up.

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

He might be being promoted to associate head coach overseeing the offense. Or maybe he is suffering from a rare form of stress induced phobia that's triggered by defensive minded head coaches? Who knows? Saintsfan1976 put it perfectly ... speculation overload. :D

Time will tell.

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

Maybe Carmichael gets a similar position as this except Senior Offensive Assistant or such. All they have said is he's staying with the Saints in a position other than OC.

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

I think Payton has a plan and was pretty transparent about it with Loomis, Mrs Benson and certain people close to him. There may be a handshake deal in place between him and Payton.

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

Pete Carmichael is good. I'm glad that he's staying at home in some capacity. He knows X's & O's and understands Payton's innovative complex system. I honestly believe that he wants to be the power behind the throne and doesn't care about being center stage.

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

We share the same opinion. What if Carmichael contemplated retirement but DA pulled him back in as a bridge to the next step?

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

Is he going to Ms Mae's en route for a drink with the little people ?

Re: Pete Carmichael maybe out as OC
 

If he did not like him he could take the head coach interview, and then if passed over ask to be released, and go elsewhere. Thats common when one coordinator gets the head gig the other asks to move on, its respected. He could prove elsewhere that he is good without Payton. I just think refusing an interview and asking for a demotion is a weird strategy for anything. If he wants to go back to being Paytons OC how does asking for a demotion help? And what kind of plan is that having no idea where Payton will end up or whether Payton will love broadcasting or whether the jobs Payton wants will come open?