Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Man you're sick. Weird, and sick...

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Given how 2022 has started for the Saints ... I don't care if we need to stretch reality a little bit to get some good news!!!

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Good for Mike but the Saints still need to be aggressive in Free Agency at WR & subsequent draft.

You can never have enough playmakers on offense.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Absolutely! We need an impact free agent WR and another via draft. That would be ideal. Coupled with Callaway and Harty we could have an elite WR corps.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

If they call each other twin then all that beef **** is dead. Twin isn’t just thrown around in the culture these days.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

You and Rosvoglou are masters of the obvious. Thanks for posting...

:doh:

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Agreed...the organization missed their window to offload this "got the payday" player. I don't see much good coming from him at this point and hope I am pleasantly surprised.

He is an employee, unfortunately he still gets paid without results, unlike the "real world". Which is the one we live in.

If he is actually having an "oh ****" moment my vacation is over, then good, back it up with results.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Unless you're a twin like I am. Then it's the best. :p

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Man... there is gullable.... and then there is stupid. MT is gone. get over it.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

I think you are dreaming map. But time will tell.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

If we trade Thomas then I'm fine with that. If he plays here then he needs to ball out or I'm still holding a grudge.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

I want MT on the roster. Can't lie tho I'm afraid if things don't go well he might show out and become a distraction. I hope not. If last year proved anything it proved how much we need him.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Trade him for what? Based on last year’s WR core production (or lack there of), its pretty obvious how much impact Mike has on offense.

I just don’t understand how some want this guy gone.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

That's simple: he hasn't delivered recently.

"The best ability is availability..."

SFIAH

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Admittedly I'm skeptical.

Need his talent.

The rest has to take a back seat to the team goal. If anyone can't get on board, they should be left at the station.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Gotta stay on the field. I’m not sure Thomas wants to be on the field. If he does, then all the better.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

doubt it.:bng: even my cow agrees with me.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Hard to deliver when you are injured. Many forget Mike played hurt for the Saints. Regardless, NO isn’t looking to trade MT.

Unless of course he doesn’t want to be in New Orleans & he’s already gone on record as being ready to put the injury bug behind him and back to balling on Sundays.

The franchise better have a damn good Plan B if he isn’t a part of this team in 2023 & beyond. We already know what we have in the supporting cast @ WR :o.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

LOL...dang we are in trouble then.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

I think Mike is saying those things knowing good and damned well that he COULD be traded.

MT: "I'm focused, ready and eager to prove my worth"

Saints: "We're not trading MT" (drive price up)

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

I've heard more about the CAP lately, more than I really wanted to but everything that I'm hearing says the CAP hit would be too big for a trade or cut. He may sit out but I can't see another scenario.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

I can't see where we would trade him and we sure aren't cutting arguably the best WR in the game. Unless he takes his uni off mid-game and tosses it into the stands. But yeah, other than that...

:banana:

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

I think you have to factor in the Bress factor. He never had a chance to show out with anyone else. But Brees made many receivers look great, that went on to mediocrity on other teams, for a number of reasons.

After the intial injury, I forget how many games he came back and how many receptions did he catch? Not the same Thomas, now he is just worried about that big payday he received and would like to keep it going. Saints can drive up his value for trade.

The worry is who would replace him?

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

The only reason there is constant talks about trading Michael Thomas on this forum is because people don’t like him. Once the million dollar race horse gets out of line and says the wrong thing they have to be put down for their lack of appreciation. Rams aren’t trying to move Cooper Kupp. Chiefs aren’t trying to move Tyreek Hill. Packers don’t want to lose Davante Adams. But here are the Saints fans trying to move a top WR talent on a team that is deprived at that position and doesn’t have a QB. The QB whisperer is gone. You need all the talent you can get at these skill positions now. We aren’t about to scheme our way out of **** anymore.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Getting out of line is one thing. Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else. And for the record, Im upset about how he’s handled things but I’m not advocating a trade either.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Keyshawn spoke to that a while back in an interview I saw on the MT situation. He didn't call out the organization but he spoke to MTs career and long term future. If it were me I wouldn't never trust the team. Any team. Always get whatever they tell you verified.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense.

He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft.

We shall see.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Absolutely all of this!

From everything Thomas is saying he wants to return and ball for the Saints. From everything the Saints are saying they want him back and balling for the Saints. From everything the salary cap says is that there's no way you take a huge cap hit by getting rid of perhaps your top asset when you need to do just the opposite. The Saints can clear around $10 million from the 2022 cap with a simple restructure (no approval of the player required) of his $15.35 million base salary and $450K in 2022 bonuses. All that is required is that he remains on the roster.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else."

I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month.

Taysom and Teddy were under center.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Yup. He averaged over 100 yards per game in 2019 in the five games with Teddy under center.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Bottom line, we're a better offense with MT in and focused on winning.

I'm sure of all people, HE's got to be ready to move beyond the last two seasons of full-tilt distractions.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

If the team has moved on from his "ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing (himself) a season on the IR" then I have no problem with it either. I just want the Saints to win games and that's it. Of course those of us with jobs could very well lose them for what Thomas "didn't" do, but then again, we aren't NFL record setting WR's that would be the most impactful offensive player on the team either. ;)

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place
 

Yeah, you know that, I know that, and I'm pretty sure everybody on this site knows that. Doesn't mean it wasn't a d*ck move on MT's part. I said I wanted him back, that doesn't mean he doesn't need to make up for it.

Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place