Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place

K Major · 02-19-2022, 10:35 AM

The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense.

He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft.

We shall see.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2022, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense.

He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft.

We shall see.

Absolutely all of this!

From everything Thomas is saying he wants to return and ball for the Saints. From everything the Saints are saying they want him back and balling for the Saints. From everything the salary cap says is that there's no way you take a huge cap hit by getting rid of perhaps your top asset when you need to do just the opposite. The Saints can clear around $10 million from the 2022 cap with a simple restructure (no approval of the player required) of his $15.35 million base salary and $450K in 2022 bonuses. All that is required is that he remains on the roster.

SaintGnome · 02-19-2022, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind.

Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else."

I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same.

K Major · 02-19-2022, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

I think you have to factor in the Bress factor. He never had a chance to show out with anyone else. But Brees made many receivers look great, that went on to mediocrity on other teams, for a number of reasons.

MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month.

Taysom and Teddy were under center.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2022, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month.

Taysom and Teddy were under center.

Yup. He averaged over 100 yards per game in 2019 in the five games with Teddy under center.

saintsfan1976 · 02-20-2022, 07:17 AM

Bottom line, we're a better offense with MT in and focused on winning.

I'm sure of all people, HE's got to be ready to move beyond the last two seasons of full-tilt distractions.

AsylumGuido · 02-20-2022, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else."

I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same.

If the team has moved on from his "ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing (himself) a season on the IR" then I have no problem with it either. I just want the Saints to win games and that's it. Of course those of us with jobs could very well lose them for what Thomas "didn't" do, but then again, we aren't NFL record setting WR's that would be the most impactful offensive player on the team either.

iceshack149 · 02-20-2022, 05:10 PM

SaintGnome · 02-20-2022, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If the team has moved on from his "ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing (himself) a season on the IR" then I have no problem with it either. I just want the Saints to win games and that's it. Of course those of us with jobs could very well lose them for what Thomas "didn't" do, but then again, we aren't NFL record setting WR's that would be the most impactful offensive player on the team either.

Yeah, you know that, I know that, and I'm pretty sure everybody on this site knows that. Doesn't mean it wasn't a d*ck move on MT's part. I said I wanted him back, that doesn't mean he doesn't need to make up for it.

jeanpierre · 02-20-2022, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month.

Taysom and Teddy were under center.

Thomas was injured, playing injured then...

02-19-2022, 10:35 AM	#71
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense. He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft. We shall see. Crusader, saintsfan1976 and AsylumGuido like this.

02-19-2022, 02:02 PM	#72
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by K Major The above article ^^^ from Nick basically states having MT back in the lineup dramatically makes things easier for the QB (Taysom, Bridgewater etc) as well as guys around him on offense. He went on to say that even when he is back at 100, that won’t stop the Saints from going out and seeking additional help (WR) in Free Agency and subsequent draft. We shall see. Absolutely all of this! From everything Thomas is saying he wants to return and ball for the Saints. From everything the Saints are saying they want him back and balling for the Saints. From everything the salary cap says is that there's no way you take a huge cap hit by getting rid of perhaps your top asset when you need to do just the opposite. The Saints can clear around $10 million from the 2022 cap with a simple restructure (no approval of the player required) of his $15.35 million base salary and $450K in 2022 bonuses. All that is required is that he remains on the roster.
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02-19-2022, 08:03 PM	#73
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by rezburna I wouldn’t trust the Saints organization when it comes to managing an injury either. Delvin Breaux comes to mind. Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else." I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same. jnormand and Boston Saint like this.

02-19-2022, 09:01 PM	#74
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by subguy I think you have to factor in the Bress factor. He never had a chance to show out with anyone else. But Brees made many receivers look great, that went on to mediocrity on other teams, for a number of reasons. MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month. Taysom and Teddy were under center. Crusader and AsylumGuido like this.

02-19-2022, 09:11 PM	#75
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by K Major MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month. Taysom and Teddy were under center. Yup. He averaged over 100 yards per game in 2019 in the five games with Teddy under center.

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02-20-2022, 07:17 AM	#76
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Bottom line, we're a better offense with MT in and focused on winning. I'm sure of all people, HE's got to be ready to move beyond the last two seasons of full-tilt distractions. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

02-20-2022, 08:58 AM	#77
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by SaintGnome Your response didn't really respond to these points "Ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing yourself a season on the IR is something else." I don't see that to say he should have let the Saints make all decisions on his health. I want and believe MT will come back but to say he did nothing out of line is a stretch. Even if he didn't want the Saints input on his recovery plan not answering your phone to your bosses... I wouldn't expect to keep my job if I did the same. If the team has moved on from his "ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing (himself) a season on the IR" then I have no problem with it either. I just want the Saints to win games and that's it. Of course those of us with jobs could very well lose them for what Thomas "didn't" do, but then again, we aren't NFL record setting WR's that would be the most impactful offensive player on the team either.

02-20-2022, 05:10 PM	#78
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02-20-2022, 07:32 PM	#79
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If the team has moved on from his "ghosting the training staff and coach about an injury and costing (himself) a season on the IR" then I have no problem with it either. I just want the Saints to win games and that's it. Of course those of us with jobs could very well lose them for what Thomas "didn't" do, but then again, we aren't NFL record setting WR's that would be the most impactful offensive player on the team either. Yeah, you know that, I know that, and I'm pretty sure everybody on this site knows that. Doesn't mean it wasn't a d*ck move on MT's part. I said I wanted him back, that doesn't mean he doesn't need to make up for it. saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

02-20-2022, 10:55 PM	#80
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Michael Thomas back in New Orleans and in a good place Originally Posted by K Major MT put up above avg numbers when Brees was out for a month. Taysom and Teddy were under center. Thomas was injured, playing injured then...