TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints

dizzle88 · 03-08-2022, 06:32 PM

Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2022, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did.

As a route runner, for sure. Then again, he was a WR first and foremost.

jeanpierre · 03-08-2022, 07:09 PM

Juwan Johnson doesn't have the sand to be a Tight End, more of a big WR slot at best; and his effort blocking, as a WR or TE, is awful...

stickman · 03-08-2022, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Juwan Johnson doesn't have the sand to be a Tight End, more of a big WR slot at best; and his effort blocking, as a WR or TE, is awful...

If he is even trying to block he's doing more than Graham did.

turbo_dog · 03-08-2022, 07:12 PM

I like this signing. He showed some promise in limited time. He's not a TE1, but definitely can be a mismatch at the position.

jeanpierre · 03-08-2022, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I like this signing. He showed some promise in limited time. He's not a TE1, but definitely can be a mismatch at the position.

Agreed. Very much like Colston in the slot on the 3rd downs and red zone, useful in those situations, but also a limited ceiling of a WR5/6 if he doesn't evolve more...

Problem is, with Mike Thomas back, you'll notice most of Thomas' damage is done out of the slot on 3rd downs as well...

saintfan · 03-08-2022, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As a route runner, for sure. Then again, he was a WR first and foremost.

But wait a minute, after game 7 fishboy was lighting it up according to your own observations, and you said not a single word about Johnson.

I see the wind has shifted, and like a kite you have not choice but to change your tune. Lord have mercy you are a real piece of work little speedo...

Crusader · 03-09-2022, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did.

As a reciever.
The thing I like the most with Trautman is his blocking downfield. That is his strongest area.

SaintGnome · 03-09-2022, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yeah. I don't think Graham has it anymore. Brees and Payton made him what he was at his peak.

Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character.

AsylumGuido · 03-09-2022, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character.

That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over.

I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did. As a route runner, for sure. Then again, he was a WR first and foremost. Crusader likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Juwan Johnson doesn't have the sand to be a Tight End, more of a big WR slot at best; and his effort blocking, as a WR or TE, is awful... AsylumGuido likes this.

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stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,672	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Juwan Johnson doesn't have the sand to be a Tight End, more of a big WR slot at best; and his effort blocking, as a WR or TE, is awful... If he is even trying to block he's doing more than Graham did. saintfan and dizzle88 like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by turbo_dog I like this signing. He showed some promise in limited time. He's not a TE1, but definitely can be a mismatch at the position. Agreed. Very much like Colston in the slot on the 3rd downs and red zone, useful in those situations, but also a limited ceiling of a WR5/6 if he doesn't evolve more... Problem is, with Mike Thomas back, you'll notice most of Thomas' damage is done out of the slot on 3rd downs as well... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As a route runner, for sure. Then again, he was a WR first and foremost. But wait a minute, after game 7 fishboy was lighting it up according to your own observations, and you said not a single word about Johnson. I see the wind has shifted, and like a kite you have not choice but to change your tune. Lord have mercy you are a real piece of work little speedo...

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Johnson showed way more promise than Trautman did. As a reciever. The thing I like the most with Trautman is his blocking downfield. That is his strongest area. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yeah. I don't think Graham has it anymore. Brees and Payton made him what he was at his peak. Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character. Boston Saint likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: TE Juwan Johnson re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by SaintGnome Yeah, but more because it seemed pretty obvious that he quit on us in his last year when he lost his mediation to be considered a WR instead of TE. Low character. That wasn't HIS mediation. It was the NFLPA using his franchise designation as a legal challenge that they had been looking for as a challengeable situation for several years. It either had to be a TE versus WR or a DE versus a LB and his just happened to be the one that first fit the bill. His character had nothing to do with it at all. At no point did he ever personally claim to be a WR. Not one single time. It was all the NFLPA versus the NFL. He simply sat back and signed a deal as the TE that he always claimed to be as soon as the case was over. I kept up with the entire case from beginning to end. While some people are into the draft and others into the combine and yet others are into free agency during the off-season, I have always been into the contract side of the NFL business.
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