Deshaun Watson to Saints?

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 02:34 PM

This means Davenport can't be part of any trade deal.

TheOak · 03-15-2022, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This means Davenport can't be part of any trade deal.

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...12942948675596

Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure).

TheKillerBs · 03-15-2022, 02:48 PM

If Watson goes to ATL, and we don't sign Jameis back, we are in trouble.
I don't really see Carolina as a legit option to land him, but ATL is a real possibility.

TheKillerBs · 03-15-2022, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure).

Trading him wouldn't be impossible, but maybe less probable.

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure).

And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones.

jeanpierre · 03-15-2022, 02:57 PM

Jason Whitlock has a very interesting take, read on all this...

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AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 02:59 PM

Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place.

saintfan · 03-15-2022, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place.

So the cap matters then?

TheOak · 03-15-2022, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones.

You are thinking linearly and that's not how it works. A bundle including his trade deal would be sent to the league with the end net being under the cap.

saintfan · 03-15-2022, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones.

Which is exactly what he just said, which you learned on twitter yesterday...

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This means Davenport can't be part of any trade deal. https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...12942948675596 Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure). saintfan likes this.

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TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? If Watson goes to ATL, and we don't sign Jameis back, we are in trouble. I don't really see Carolina as a legit option to land him, but ATL is a real possibility.

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TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure). Trading him wouldn't be impossible, but maybe less probable.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure). And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place. So the cap matters then?

03-15-2022, 03:06 PM	#189
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones. You are thinking linearly and that's not how it works. A bundle including his trade deal would be sent to the league with the end net being under the cap.

03-15-2022, 03:09 PM	#190
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones. Which is exactly what he just said, which you learned on twitter yesterday... jeanpierre and K Major like this.