Deshaun Watson to Saints?

rezburna · 03-13-2022, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I'd much rather see us take our chances with those 3 picks.

Understood. I really like Olave in the 1st round, but this is the kind of move that would make New Orleans a HUGE free agent destination for years to come.

FinSaint · 03-13-2022, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I'd much rather see us take our chances with those 3 picks.

While the Saints have certainly had nice 1st round picks within the last decade, there's also Stephone Anthony within those picks.

With Watson you can have a franchise QB for the next decade and more, which would allow the Saints to be in the fight for the next couple of seasons full throttle. After that they could retool for a couple of seasons and fight again with Watson under center.

Just food for thought...

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2022, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I saw their demand so I expect them to get a little less than what they’re asking for. They aren’t a good organization. We can probably end up sending two 1sts and maybe some 2nd rounders. That’s more than enough for him.

Yes, this. He comes with baggage so it's reasonable that their pre-controversy demand of three firsts may be just be throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks. That only logical in a negotiation. But so is coming back with a lowball counter. That's probably what both New Orleans and Carolina did. As Major put it, due diligence. Why not give it a try. All they can say is no. But then again, he's doing them no good sitting another season.

saintfan · 03-13-2022, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yes, this. He comes with baggage so it's reasonable that their pre-controversy demand of three firsts may be just be throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks. That only logical in a negotiation. But so is coming back with a lowball counter. That's probably what both New Orleans and Carolina did. As Major put it, due diligence. Why not give it a try. All they can say is no. But then again, he's doing them no good sitting another season.

So recently you felt so differently. What changed? Would you embrace this player you seem to have so many negatively feelings about and start preaching 17-0 again? Pride and ego are clearly two different things eh speedo?

Crusader · 03-13-2022, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

While the Saints have certainly had nice 1st round picks within the last decade, there's also Stephone Anthony within those picks.

With Watson you can have a franchise QB for the next decade and more, which would allow the Saints to be in the fight for the next couple of seasons full throttle. After that they could retool for a couple of seasons and fight again with Watson under center.

Just food for thought...

Yeah I get that reasoning but there are no guarantees it will pan out. With the baggage tied to him I rather try and find a QB in the draft this year or one of the coming with those picks.

saintfan · 03-13-2022, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I saw their demand so I expect them to get a little less than what they’re asking for. They aren’t a good organization. We can probably end up sending two 1sts and maybe some 2nd rounders. That’s more than enough for him.

Maybe, but my bet is they're gonna want a player. Maybe we can swap that player for another mid round pick. A couple firsts and a couple seconds, imo, would be a steal.

rezburna · 03-13-2022, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Maybe, but my bet is they're gonna want a player. Maybe we can swap that player for another mid round pick. A couple firsts and a couple seconds, imo, would be a steal.

I’d be cool with Davenport if they just HAVE to have a player. I’m not moving CJ.

saintfan · 03-13-2022, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d be cool with Davenport if they just HAVE to have a player. I’m not moving CJ.

+1

K Major · 03-13-2022, 05:26 PM

Where in the hell is Bill O'Brien when you need him.

ReillyBhoy · 03-13-2022, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...69501671329792

From the article:

With all this in mind: here is the kind of trade package Houston may be looking for:

2022 first round pick (No. 18)

2022 second round pick (No. 49)

2023 first round pick

2024 first round pick

Defensive end Marcus Davenport

Defensive back C.J. Gardner-Johnson

Not CGJ. That's a no for me

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03-13-2022, 04:14 PM	#91
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by Crusader I'd much rather see us take our chances with those 3 picks. Understood. I really like Olave in the 1st round, but this is the kind of move that would make New Orleans a HUGE free agent destination for years to come. saintsfan1976 likes this.

03-13-2022, 04:19 PM	#92
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by Crusader I'd much rather see us take our chances with those 3 picks. While the Saints have certainly had nice 1st round picks within the last decade, there's also Stephone Anthony within those picks. With Watson you can have a franchise QB for the next decade and more, which would allow the Saints to be in the fight for the next couple of seasons full throttle. After that they could retool for a couple of seasons and fight again with Watson under center. Just food for thought... saintsfan1976 likes this.

03-13-2022, 04:29 PM	#93
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,222	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna I saw their demand so I expect them to get a little less than what they’re asking for. They aren’t a good organization. We can probably end up sending two 1sts and maybe some 2nd rounders. That’s more than enough for him. Yes, this. He comes with baggage so it's reasonable that their pre-controversy demand of three firsts may be just be throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks. That only logical in a negotiation. But so is coming back with a lowball counter. That's probably what both New Orleans and Carolina did. As Major put it, due diligence. Why not give it a try. All they can say is no. But then again, he's doing them no good sitting another season. saintsfan1976 and rezburna like this.

03-13-2022, 04:50 PM	#94
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yes, this. He comes with baggage so it's reasonable that their pre-controversy demand of three firsts may be just be throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks. That only logical in a negotiation. But so is coming back with a lowball counter. That's probably what both New Orleans and Carolina did. As Major put it, due diligence. Why not give it a try. All they can say is no. But then again, he's doing them no good sitting another season. So recently you felt so differently. What changed? Would you embrace this player you seem to have so many negatively feelings about and start preaching 17-0 again? Pride and ego are clearly two different things eh speedo?

03-13-2022, 04:51 PM	#95
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by FinSaint While the Saints have certainly had nice 1st round picks within the last decade, there's also Stephone Anthony within those picks. With Watson you can have a franchise QB for the next decade and more, which would allow the Saints to be in the fight for the next couple of seasons full throttle. After that they could retool for a couple of seasons and fight again with Watson under center. Just food for thought... Yeah I get that reasoning but there are no guarantees it will pan out. With the baggage tied to him I rather try and find a QB in the draft this year or one of the coming with those picks.

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03-13-2022, 04:52 PM	#96
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna I saw their demand so I expect them to get a little less than what they’re asking for. They aren’t a good organization. We can probably end up sending two 1sts and maybe some 2nd rounders. That’s more than enough for him. Maybe, but my bet is they're gonna want a player. Maybe we can swap that player for another mid round pick. A couple firsts and a couple seconds, imo, would be a steal. rezburna likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by saintfan Maybe, but my bet is they're gonna want a player. Maybe we can swap that player for another mid round pick. A couple firsts and a couple seconds, imo, would be a steal. I’d be cool with Davenport if they just HAVE to have a player. I’m not moving CJ. saintfan, saintsfan1976 and stickman like this.

03-13-2022, 05:17 PM	#98
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna I’d be cool with Davenport if they just HAVE to have a player. I’m not moving CJ. +1

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ReillyBhoy Registered Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 76	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...69501671329792 From the article: With all this in mind: here is the kind of trade package Houston may be looking for: 2022 first round pick (No. 18) 2022 second round pick (No. 49) 2023 first round pick 2024 first round pick Defensive end Marcus Davenport Defensive back C.J. Gardner-Johnson Not CGJ. That's a no for me Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk AsylumGuido, ChrisXVI and SaintGnome like this.
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