Deshaun Watson to Saints?

TheKillerBs · 03-18-2022, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I honestly do not blame him. He has until April 22nd to decide. That comes with the risk of having clubs grow impatient and retracting their offers to go in a different direction.

When agreements drag out it is generally because of contractual terms. Watson and his agent are 'probably' looking at an offer from New Orleans and Atlanta with different guarantees and similar but different Ts&Cs regarding conduct. Watson's Houston contract is only relevant for 24hours then the destination team can restructure it so I am sure Watson and his agent are also looking at what the restructure from each team looks like.

As far as Jameis Winston, he has had an offer from New Orleans from earlier in the off-season, him not being a Saint is on him. He is gambling that the Watson thing falls through and New Orleans panics and gives him a better deal.

Yeah, I get it... I understand that its a huge decision and he and his agent need to figure out what makes sense for them. And, maybe if it wasn't between us and ATL, it would be less nerve-wracking... But, come on... I still want him to come here, but most of all, I just wanna know one way or the other, so we can focus on other things.

GeauxForMore · 03-18-2022, 07:59 AM

I think the Watson to ATL is a done deal. Matt Ryan pushing his roster bonus until Tuesday gives him and another team time to explore a trade destination. We need to move on.....

ChrisXVI · 03-18-2022, 08:20 AM

Dennis Allen with a hell of a start to his tenure… Whiff on Deshaun Watson and alienate the players who were included in the potential trade.

TheOak · 03-18-2022, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

Yeah, I get it... I understand that its a huge decision and he and his agent need to figure out what makes sense for them. And, maybe if it wasn't between us and ATL, it would be less nerve-wracking... But, come on... I still want him to come here, but most of all, I just wanna know one way or the other, so we can focus on other things.

I have zero patience so I can understand your frustration

.

Try this, put your self in his shoes. 26yo, single, not only are you making a decision that a potential $100MM future implication but you are gifted with something that is very rare in this league especially at his age.

When was the last time a QB under 30 had the fortune of being able to decide where he goes? QB of his caliber are generally long term at the team they were drafted by, franchise tagged, or traded without much choice. If I were his friend id say '***K the fans, take the time to make the right decision for you'.

Now, if he is out getting a massage and not really pining on the decision then screw him.

TheOak · 03-18-2022, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Dennis Allen with a hell of a start to his tenure… Whiff on Deshaun Watson and alienate the players who were included in the potential trade.

Either way, you lose the locker room for a bit don't you?

TheKillerBs · 03-18-2022, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I have zero patience so I can understand your frustration .

Try this, put your self in his shoes. 26yo, single, not only are you making a decision that a potential $100MM future implication but you are gifted with something that is very rare in this league especially at his age.

When was the last time a QB under 30 had the fortune of being able to decide where he goes? QB of his caliber are generally long term at the team they were drafted by, franchise tagged, or traded without much choice. If I were his friend id say '***K the fans, take the time to make the right decision for you'.

Now, if he is out getting a massage and not really pining on the decision then screw him.

The only thing worse than being a Saints fan right now and waiting for this decision, is being a Falcons fan, because their team already sucks. XD

TheOak · 03-18-2022, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

The only thing worse than being a Saints fan right now and waiting for this decision, is being a Falcons fan, because their team already sucks. XD

To Chris's point about losing the locker-room. It is one thing to get pulled into a trade and have to change teams; it is a whole different level of azz-hurt when you are Matt Ryan the franchise QB that your team just went all in to replace you with 2 years left on your contract. Franchise QBs aren't treated that way they generally play it out and find a team for the sunset years.

K Major · 03-18-2022, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

I think the Watson to ATL is a done deal. Matt Ryan pushing his roster bonus until Tuesday gives him and another team time to explore a trade destination. We need to move on.....

Which team do you predict ?

The NFL is a cutthroat business. I hope Atlanta gets no help and die with Ryans salary & potential cap hit.

ChrisXVI · 03-18-2022, 09:05 AM

I think the Colts would be an awesome fit for Matt Ryan. Only problem is they just gave up draft assets last year for a QB that didn’t work out. I don’t know if they’d do it again.

GeauxForMore · 03-18-2022, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Which team do you predict ?

The NFL is a cutthroat business. I hope Atlanta gets no help and die with Ryans salary & potential cap hit.

I'm with you on that lol! Honestly I can see Ryan going to the Colts. They are looking for a Vet at QB. Ryan telling the Falcons sure hold my 7 million for a few days just made me think this is a done deal. Hopefully I'm wrong.

03-18-2022, 07:59 AM	#491
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak I honestly do not blame him. He has until April 22nd to decide. That comes with the risk of having clubs grow impatient and retracting their offers to go in a different direction. When agreements drag out it is generally because of contractual terms. Watson and his agent are 'probably' looking at an offer from New Orleans and Atlanta with different guarantees and similar but different Ts&Cs regarding conduct. Watson's Houston contract is only relevant for 24hours then the destination team can restructure it so I am sure Watson and his agent are also looking at what the restructure from each team looks like. As far as Jameis Winston, he has had an offer from New Orleans from earlier in the off-season, him not being a Saint is on him. He is gambling that the Watson thing falls through and New Orleans panics and gives him a better deal. Yeah, I get it... I understand that its a huge decision and he and his agent need to figure out what makes sense for them. And, maybe if it wasn't between us and ATL, it would be less nerve-wracking... But, come on... I still want him to come here, but most of all, I just wanna know one way or the other, so we can focus on other things.

03-18-2022, 07:59 AM	#492
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 589	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? I think the Watson to ATL is a done deal. Matt Ryan pushing his roster bonus until Tuesday gives him and another team time to explore a trade destination. We need to move on..... SmashMouth and ChrisXVI like this.

03-18-2022, 08:20 AM	#493
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Dennis Allen with a hell of a start to his tenure… Whiff on Deshaun Watson and alienate the players who were included in the potential trade. jnormand, SmashMouth, TheOak and 1 others like this.

03-18-2022, 08:23 AM	#494
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheKillerBs Yeah, I get it... I understand that its a huge decision and he and his agent need to figure out what makes sense for them. And, maybe if it wasn't between us and ATL, it would be less nerve-wracking... But, come on... I still want him to come here, but most of all, I just wanna know one way or the other, so we can focus on other things. I have zero patience so I can understand your frustration . Try this, put your self in his shoes. 26yo, single, not only are you making a decision that a potential $100MM future implication but you are gifted with something that is very rare in this league especially at his age. When was the last time a QB under 30 had the fortune of being able to decide where he goes? QB of his caliber are generally long term at the team they were drafted by, franchise tagged, or traded without much choice. If I were his friend id say '***K the fans, take the time to make the right decision for you'. Now, if he is out getting a massage and not really pining on the decision then screw him. TheKillerBs, SmashMouth and rezburna like this.
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03-18-2022, 08:24 AM	#495
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Dennis Allen with a hell of a start to his tenure… Whiff on Deshaun Watson and alienate the players who were included in the potential trade. Either way, you lose the locker room for a bit don't you? ChrisXVI and rezburna like this.
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03-18-2022, 08:37 AM	#496
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak I have zero patience so I can understand your frustration . Try this, put your self in his shoes. 26yo, single, not only are you making a decision that a potential $100MM future implication but you are gifted with something that is very rare in this league especially at his age. When was the last time a QB under 30 had the fortune of being able to decide where he goes? QB of his caliber are generally long term at the team they were drafted by, franchise tagged, or traded without much choice. If I were his friend id say '***K the fans, take the time to make the right decision for you'. Now, if he is out getting a massage and not really pining on the decision then screw him. The only thing worse than being a Saints fan right now and waiting for this decision, is being a Falcons fan, because their team already sucks. XD

03-18-2022, 08:44 AM	#497
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheKillerBs The only thing worse than being a Saints fan right now and waiting for this decision, is being a Falcons fan, because their team already sucks. XD To Chris's point about losing the locker-room. It is one thing to get pulled into a trade and have to change teams; it is a whole different level of azz-hurt when you are Matt Ryan the franchise QB that your team just went all in to replace you with 2 years left on your contract. Franchise QBs aren't treated that way they generally play it out and find a team for the sunset years. TheKillerBs likes this.

03-18-2022, 08:52 AM	#498
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by GeauxForMore I think the Watson to ATL is a done deal. Matt Ryan pushing his roster bonus until Tuesday gives him and another team time to explore a trade destination. We need to move on..... Which team do you predict ? The NFL is a cutthroat business. I hope Atlanta gets no help and die with Ryans salary & potential cap hit. TheKillerBs, saintsfan1976, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

03-18-2022, 09:05 AM	#499
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? I think the Colts would be an awesome fit for Matt Ryan. Only problem is they just gave up draft assets last year for a QB that didn’t work out. I don’t know if they’d do it again.

03-18-2022, 09:08 AM	#500
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 589	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by K Major Which team do you predict ? The NFL is a cutthroat business. I hope Atlanta gets no help and die with Ryans salary & potential cap hit. I'm with you on that lol! Honestly I can see Ryan going to the Colts. They are looking for a Vet at QB. Ryan telling the Falcons sure hold my 7 million for a few days just made me think this is a done deal. Hopefully I'm wrong.