Deshaun Watson to Saints?

TheOak · 03-15-2022, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This means Davenport can't be part of any trade deal.

https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...12942948675596

Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure).

TheKillerBs · 03-15-2022, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure).

Trading him wouldn't be impossible, but maybe less probable.

TheOak · 03-15-2022, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs

Trading him wouldn't be impossible, but maybe less probable.

Correct but Feauxstradamus said "can't".
I am leery of ruling anything out with this team since the Rickey Williams deal.

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Correct but Feauxstradamus said "can't".
I am leery of ruling anything out with this team since the Rickey Williams deal.

Don't forget, we also need to make some moves to be able to fit Watson under the cap constraints. Including any player that has been restructured as part of the trade will make that those moves even that much more grueling, and yes, even impossible at some point.

saintfan · 03-15-2022, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't forget, we also need to make some moves to be able to fit Watson under the cap constraints. Including any player that has been restructured as part of the trade will make that those moves even that much more grueling, and yes, even impossible at some point.

Because the cap doesn't matter tho, rite?

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure).

And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones.

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 02:59 PM

Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place.

saintfan · 03-15-2022, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place.

So the cap matters then?

TheOak · 03-15-2022, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones.

You are thinking linearly and that's not how it works. A bundle including his trade deal would be sent to the league with the end net being under the cap.

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2022, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You are thinking linearly and that's not how it works. A bundle including his trade deal would be sent to the league with the end net being under the cap.

Show us how that "bundle" could be structured so that the net could be under the cap. Keep in mind, as of 4:00 PM tomorrow the 51 player cap figure must be at or under $208,991,219 and remain at or under that figure.

Yes, if we cut Roby and restructure most of the remaining players eligible we could, I suppose, slip Davenport in as part of a trade, but that would exhaust virtually all remaining cap recovery for further free agency.

03-15-2022, 02:46 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This means Davenport can't be part of any trade deal. https://twitter.com/john_siglerr/sta...12942948675596 Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure). saintfan likes this.

03-15-2022, 02:49 PM	#2
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure). Trading him wouldn't be impossible, but maybe less probable.

03-15-2022, 03:18 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheKillerBs Trading him wouldn't be impossible, but maybe less probable. Correct but Feauxstradamus said "can't". I am leery of ruling anything out with this team since the Rickey Williams deal.

03-15-2022, 03:24 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak Correct but Feauxstradamus said "can't". I am leery of ruling anything out with this team since the Rickey Williams deal. Don't forget, we also need to make some moves to be able to fit Watson under the cap constraints. Including any player that has been restructured as part of the trade will make that those moves even that much more grueling, and yes, even impossible at some point.

03-15-2022, 03:25 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't forget, we also need to make some moves to be able to fit Watson under the cap constraints. Including any player that has been restructured as part of the trade will make that those moves even that much more grueling, and yes, even impossible at some point. Because the cap doesn't matter tho, rite?

03-15-2022, 02:54 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak Yes he can. It would just escalate the proration of the 4 void years (Undo the conversion restructure). And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones.

03-15-2022, 02:59 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place.

03-15-2022, 03:01 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Trading Davenport now would result in a dead money cap hit of $9,601,384. That would increase our current cap number by $6,591,938 putting us back over by basically the same amount that we saved by restructuring him in the first place. So the cap matters then?

03-15-2022, 03:06 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And put us back over the cap. That's why any of the players that have gone through a restructure cannot be involved in the trade without the additional cap space to cover that escalation. Maybe one of the minor restructures, but none of the major ones. You are thinking linearly and that's not how it works. A bundle including his trade deal would be sent to the league with the end net being under the cap.

03-15-2022, 03:16 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Deshaun Watson to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak You are thinking linearly and that's not how it works. A bundle including his trade deal would be sent to the league with the end net being under the cap. Show us how that "bundle" could be structured so that the net could be under the cap. Keep in mind, as of 4:00 PM tomorrow the 51 player cap figure must be at or under $208,991,219 and remain at or under that figure. Yes, if we cut Roby and restructure most of the remaining players eligible we could, I suppose, slip Davenport in as part of a trade, but that would exhaust virtually all remaining cap recovery for further free agency.