2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

neugey · 04-30-2022, 09:29 AM

TE Kolar from Iowa State would be a steal. Might need to move up to get him. I don't want to give up on Trautman yet and I realize this creates a logjam at TE position with Taysom part of the arsenal, but still.

jeanpierre · 04-30-2022, 09:36 AM

Based on the Rich Hill trade chart, with the Saints remaining picks 161 and 194, packaged, the Saints could move up to the last pick of Round 4, first pick of Round 5...

With regards to the Olave trade, Redskins sent the 11th pick (357.62) for the Saints trade package of the 16th, 98th, and 120th (305.41 + 37.68 + 23.1 = 366.19)...

So that's gives the Saints a differential of 8.57 - that's an impressive value swap...

Nitpicking some, but it'd been nice if Loomis could've got the Redskins to send back their pick at 189 (4.97), to gain some juice; but, hey, they're under the clock...

And, as D.A. stated, Olave was their highest rated WR, most complete prospect, and he's probably right, and we got the two players we most needed in this draft...

Mock Drafts got it right for the Saints Olave and Penning, it was just how we got there was the twist...

jeanpierre · 04-30-2022, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Struggling to understand that last pick. They are already saying they see him as a CB first. Surely bigger needs than a 4th choice CB.

Foundation to every modern defense - Corner Backs and Defensive Ends - and CBs do get injured...

Have no problem taking a CB, maybe RAS was too heavily weighted vs film, maybe the inside the locker rooms connect between Saints and Tennessee, the player has limited experience...

Bears snatched FS Jaquan Brisker right before at 48 (Honey Badger?); also felt there were better CBs, with better film, which I give the most weight...

Some players valued more, bigger impact on roster - TE Trey McBride, LB Troy Anderson, WR Alec Pierce, LB Chad Muma, CB Jalyn Armour-Davis, FS Kerby Joseph...

But as Chris and Smash suggested, Saints like that empiracal data, in this case, RAS score, and they give it great weight in their selections...

papz · 04-30-2022, 11:35 AM

Hoping for a mean interior lineman and linebacker today.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2022, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Struggling to understand that last pick. They are already saying they see him as a CB first. Surely bigger needs than a 4th choice CB.

That's assuming "need" was the motivation for the pick. They obviously had this guy targeted and didn't want to take the chance of losing him. Having a top 30 CB RAS over the last 35 years means there is something special there.

jeanpierre · 04-30-2022, 12:07 PM

#IMHO, Pool of players that make great fits to Saints:

LB JoJo Domann (best coverage rating in draft)

WRs Kyle Phillips (and a very capable punt returner, only WR to ever truly smoke Derek Stingley on a play)

WRz Bo Melton (Tyreek Cheetah Hill speed, Raw)

RB Pierre Strong (very similar to another Pierre, only faster)

RB Ty Chandler (Home Run Speed, Transferred to UNC, great production)

DT Matthew Butler (Capable Pass Rusher, Amazing First Step)

NT John Ridgeway (Very raw, but has highest ceiling, Ryan Nielsen multiplier)

TE Charlie Kolar (Yes, he's got that high a ceiling)

TE Austin Allen (Late Round Gem, Impressive Size to Speed Athleticism)

iceshack149 · 04-30-2022, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I was wrong… Dennis Allen said he’ll play CB.

I suppose I should take DA at his word but I think the kid will see the field more as a Safety than a CB.

I just read (probably on this beloved site since you all are providing so much great information) that Taylor was a terrific gunner on Special Teams so we'lll likely get to see him play that role this season.

iceshack149 · 04-30-2022, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Okay, my apologies to the Black and Gold Krewe, I admit I didn't read through Chris's post in it's entirety, fully grasping the great info he spoils us with during Draft season...

Just pissed I lost WIFI tonight (Only have Streaming, No Cable Service), my favorite time of the NFL year, my favorite day; spiking 103°F fever all week isn't helping...

Again, I was wrong, and apologize to Chris and you guys for not reading Chris's post in it's entirety and giving an uninformed take...

Thanks, Smash - Love you, Brother...

Man JP, you're having a rough time. These past couple of years have been awful. I hope things turn around quickly for you, brother.

K Major · 04-30-2022, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Man JP, you're having a rough time. These past couple of years have been awful. I hope things turn around quickly for you, brother.

+1.

jeanpierre · 04-30-2022, 02:16 PM

There goes Khalil Shakir to the Bills...

Man, Bills are gonna have a helluva CB tandem with Tre White and Kaiir Elam...

04-30-2022, 09:29 AM	#321
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,725 Blog Entries: 13	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints TE Kolar from Iowa State would be a steal. Might need to move up to get him. I don't want to give up on Trautman yet and I realize this creates a logjam at TE position with Taysom part of the arsenal, but still. iceshack149, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

04-30-2022, 09:36 AM	#322
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Based on the Rich Hill trade chart, with the Saints remaining picks 161 and 194, packaged, the Saints could move up to the last pick of Round 4, first pick of Round 5... With regards to the Olave trade, Redskins sent the 11th pick (357.62) for the Saints trade package of the 16th, 98th, and 120th (305.41 + 37.68 + 23.1 = 366.19)... So that's gives the Saints a differential of 8.57 - that's an impressive value swap... Nitpicking some, but it'd been nice if Loomis could've got the Redskins to send back their pick at 189 (4.97), to gain some juice; but, hey, they're under the clock... And, as D.A. stated, Olave was their highest rated WR, most complete prospect, and he's probably right, and we got the two players we most needed in this draft... Mock Drafts got it right for the Saints Olave and Penning, it was just how we got there was the twist...
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04-30-2022, 11:03 AM	#323
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 Struggling to understand that last pick. They are already saying they see him as a CB first. Surely bigger needs than a 4th choice CB. Foundation to every modern defense - Corner Backs and Defensive Ends - and CBs do get injured... Have no problem taking a CB, maybe RAS was too heavily weighted vs film, maybe the inside the locker rooms connect between Saints and Tennessee, the player has limited experience... Bears snatched FS Jaquan Brisker right before at 48 (Honey Badger?); also felt there were better CBs, with better film, which I give the most weight... Some players valued more, bigger impact on roster - TE Trey McBride, LB Troy Anderson, WR Alec Pierce, LB Chad Muma, CB Jalyn Armour-Davis, FS Kerby Joseph... But as Chris and Smash suggested, Saints like that empiracal data, in this case, RAS score, and they give it great weight in their selections...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

04-30-2022, 11:35 AM	#324
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Hoping for a mean interior lineman and linebacker today. jeanpierre likes this.

04-30-2022, 11:58 AM	#325
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by lee909 Struggling to understand that last pick. They are already saying they see him as a CB first. Surely bigger needs than a 4th choice CB. That's assuming "need" was the motivation for the pick. They obviously had this guy targeted and didn't want to take the chance of losing him. Having a top 30 CB RAS over the last 35 years means there is something special there. ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

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04-30-2022, 12:07 PM	#326
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints #IMHO, Pool of players that make great fits to Saints: LB JoJo Domann (best coverage rating in draft) WRs Kyle Phillips (and a very capable punt returner, only WR to ever truly smoke Derek Stingley on a play) WRz Bo Melton (Tyreek Cheetah Hill speed, Raw) RB Pierre Strong (very similar to another Pierre, only faster) RB Ty Chandler (Home Run Speed, Transferred to UNC, great production) DT Matthew Butler (Capable Pass Rusher, Amazing First Step) NT John Ridgeway (Very raw, but has highest ceiling, Ryan Nielsen multiplier) TE Charlie Kolar (Yes, he's got that high a ceiling) TE Austin Allen (Late Round Gem, Impressive Size to Speed Athleticism)
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04-30-2022, 12:35 PM	#327
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I was wrong… Dennis Allen said he’ll play CB. I suppose I should take DA at his word but I think the kid will see the field more as a Safety than a CB. I just read (probably on this beloved site since you all are providing so much great information) that Taylor was a terrific gunner on Special Teams so we'lll likely get to see him play that role this season. jeanpierre likes this.

04-30-2022, 12:38 PM	#328
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Okay, my apologies to the Black and Gold Krewe, I admit I didn't read through Chris's post in it's entirety, fully grasping the great info he spoils us with during Draft season... Just pissed I lost WIFI tonight (Only have Streaming, No Cable Service), my favorite time of the NFL year, my favorite day; spiking 103°F fever all week isn't helping... Again, I was wrong, and apologize to Chris and you guys for not reading Chris's post in it's entirety and giving an uninformed take... Thanks, Smash - Love you, Brother... Man JP, you're having a rough time. These past couple of years have been awful. I hope things turn around quickly for you, brother. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

04-30-2022, 01:32 PM	#329
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by iceshack149 Man JP, you're having a rough time. These past couple of years have been awful. I hope things turn around quickly for you, brother. +1. jeanpierre likes this.

04-30-2022, 02:16 PM	#330
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints There goes Khalil Shakir to the Bills... Man, Bills are gonna have a helluva CB tandem with Tre White and Kaiir Elam...