Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 952630)

I see. Your “Let's see Winston play under the same scrutiny as other NFL QBs” statement threw me off a little as I feel he’s had great scrutiny. For example he was shredded all over the media for his 30 INT season and people overlooked that he also had 5,000+ yards and 33 TDs that year. By comparison Bret Favre didn’t get near the grief for his 29 INT season in 2005 that had less than 4,000 yards and only 20 TDs. Manning had a worse statistical year than Winston’s early in his career too and he wasn’t knocked as hard as Winston was.

I also think Brees got recognition because the first year he came here he led us to our first NFC championship appearance. And while You are correct that If you take out Winston’s two best games (out of only 6 1/2) he didn’t have great numbers, but he also wasn’t the TO machine he had the label of being. It’s not like any of his replacements did any better.

Plus let’s take a look at Drew’s first year here. If we pull out his two best games (Dallas and Tampa) he had 18 TDs in 14 games. That’s just over 1/game. Very similar to Jameis. Plus he had 11 INTs in those 14 games. That’s worse than Winston’s 2 INT in 4 1/2 games (He threw one against the Redskins game we are throwing out). Just food for thought.

I also think Colston, Horn, and Henderson were better than what Winston had to work with last year.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 952632)

Dead on, Boston. But Winston detractors ignore those facts. They continue to bring up his college transgressions and his interceptions in an extremely interception friendly offense coupled with one of the worst defenses in the NFL which was always forcing him to play from behind. They ignore that he has been universally loved by his teammates and has been praised as a hard worker by all ... INCLUDING Drew Brees himself.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 952633)

He’s certainly working hard and doing what he can to come back from his injury. I only wish Thomas would have done the same thing.

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 952616)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 952635)

From what little I have heard and read, Thomas has been working hard to be ready for this coming season. The difference is that his "management team" isn't posting twitter video after twitter video showing what he's doing like Winston's "team". :D

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 952632)

Dead on, Boston. But Winston detractors ignore those facts. They continue to bring up his college transgressions and his interceptions in an extremely interception friendly offense coupled with one of the worst defenses in the NFL which was always forcing him to play from behind. They ignore that he has been universally loved by his teammates and has been praised as a hard worker by all ... INCLUDING Drew Brees himself.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 952638)

Media and Social platforms need to generate traffic... even if it means stretching facts to fit their narratives.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 952630)

I see. Your “Let's see Winston play under the same scrutiny as other NFL QBs” statement threw me off a little as I feel he’s had great scrutiny. For example he was shredded all over the media for his 30 INT season and people overlooked that he also had 5,000+ yards and 33 TDs that year. By comparison Bret Favre didn’t get near the grief for his 29 INT season in 2005 that had less than 4,000 yards and only 20 TDs. Manning had a worse statistical year than Winston’s early in his career too and he wasn’t knocked as hard as Winston was.

I also think Brees got recognition because the first year he came here he led us to our first NFC championship appearance. And while You are correct that If you take out Winston’s two best games (out of only 6 1/2) he didn’t have great numbers, but he also wasn’t the TO machine he had the label of being. It’s not like any of his replacements did any better.

Plus let’s take a look at Drew’s first year here. If we pull out his two best games (Dallas and Tampa) he had 18 TDs in 14 games. That’s just over 1/game. Very similar to Jameis. Plus he had 11 INTs in those 14 games. That’s worse than Winston’s 2 INT in 4 1/2 games (He threw one against the Redskins game we are throwing out). Just food for thought.

I also think Colston, Horn, and Henderson were better than what Winston had to work with last year.

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 952640)

I agree with you on that. Some people don’t remember that it took Drew until about the 09 season to fully master the offense. He came to us as a qb that was good but not great, yet. He was benched a few times in SD and until they drafted Rivers did he get a grasp on the game. I’m in no way bashing Drew but what I’m saying is he had bumps on his way to greatness and some guys take a while to figure it out. Jameis is just gonna be a guy that is damned if you damned if you don’t. Just like Stafford

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 952638)

Media and Social platforms need to generate traffic... even if it means stretching facts to fit their narratives.