Jameis Winston says “everything is going great” in his return from knee injury

SaintGnome · 06-28-2022, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It sure sucks an illegal horse collar took him out. Cheap friggin shot artist, no good tampon bay, brady butt kissing SOBs!!

Yes, I’m still upset about it and hope all those MFers get their clocks cleaned this year….Bastards!

and the thing is, I'm pretty sure Ingram was open in the flat

Boston Saint · 06-28-2022, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

and the thing is, I'm pretty sure Ingram was open in the flat

Maybe so. But Winston had broken through the initial rush and was clear to run had the tampon defender not made a play he KNOWS he’s not supposed to do. Josh Allen and Mahomes earn their living making plays like the one Winston was trying to make.

SaintGnome · 06-28-2022, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Maybe so. But Winston had broken through the initial rush and was clear to run had the tampon defender not made a play he KNOWS he’s not supposed to do. Josh Allen and Mahomes earn their living making plays like the one Winston was trying to make.

Yeah, I feel you at the time I mentioned given that the horse collar is almost always causes injury the penalty should be greater at least an ejection, fine, and possibly suspension.

SmashMouth · 06-28-2022, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Maybe so. But Winston had broken through the initial rush and was clear to run had the tampon defender not made a play he KNOWS he’s not supposed to do. Josh Allen and Mahomes earn their living making plays like the one Winston was trying to make.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome

Yeah, I feel you at the time I mentioned given that the horse collar is almost always causes injury the penalty should be greater at least an ejection, fine, and possibly suspension.

Thing is... despite that play and how bad it looked, it was technically not a horse collar. The jersey was grabbed... and was grabbed strong enough so that Winston could not pull away. This portends to behoving a QB to realize his limitations and gracefully and uneventfully go down rather than attempt to fight through, somewhat like Aaron Rodgers does. We've seen over the years a number of players, and not just at the QB position, with an innate ability to feel tacklers and see them gracefully avoid them or go down sans injury. Maybe Jameis learned from this going forward.

Boston Saint · 06-28-2022, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Thing is... despite that play and how bad it looked, it was technically not a horse collar. The jersey was grabbed... and was grabbed strong enough so that Winston could not pull away. This portends to behoving a QB to realize his limitations and gracefully and uneventfully go down rather than attempt to fight through, somewhat like Aaron Rodgers does. We've seen over the years a number of players, and not just at the QB position, with an innate ability to feel tacklers and see them gracefully avoid them or go down sans injury. Maybe Jameis learned from this going forward.

Interesting take Smash. This site thinks it was a horse collar…

https://fansided.com/2021/11/01/nfl-...explained/amp/

I agree with you about players being able to “sense” these things.

AsylumGuido · 06-28-2022, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Thing is... despite that play and how bad it looked, it was technically not a horse collar. The jersey was grabbed... and was grabbed strong enough so that Winston could not pull away. This portends to behoving a QB to realize his limitations and gracefully and uneventfully go down rather than attempt to fight through, somewhat like Aaron Rodgers does. We've seen over the years a number of players, and not just at the QB position, with an innate ability to feel tacklers and see them gracefully avoid them or go down sans injury. Maybe Jameis learned from this going forward.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Interesting take Smash. This site thinks it was a horse collar…

https://fansided.com/2021/11/01/nfl-...explained/amp/

I agree with you about players being able to “sense” these things.

It was definitely a horse collar tackle. That's why the league fined Devin White $15,450 after reviewing the play.

SmashMouth · 06-28-2022, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Interesting take Smash. This site thinks it was a horse collar…

https://fansided.com/2021/11/01/nfl-...explained/amp/

I agree with you about players being able to “sense” these things.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It was definitely a horse collar tackle. That's why the league fined Devin White $15,450 after reviewing the play.

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They did call it... and it looked like it. Maybe the rule includes the top back part of the jersey. But technically a horse collar is when they grab higher at the neck opening of the jersey. I am glad they called it. Doesn't stop the QB from sensing this kind of threat and reacting in a non-injurious manner. If he stops resisting the tackle and goes/falls in the opposite direction, maybe he doesn't injure himself.

06-28-2022, 01:43 PM	#1
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Jameis Winston says “everything is going great” in his return from knee injury Originally Posted by Boston Saint It sure sucks an illegal horse collar took him out. Cheap friggin shot artist, no good tampon bay, brady butt kissing SOBs!! Yes, I’m still upset about it and hope all those MFers get their clocks cleaned this year….Bastards! and the thing is, I'm pretty sure Ingram was open in the flat iceshack149, Rugby Saint II and Thirty3 like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jameis Winston says “everything is going great” in his return from knee injury Originally Posted by SaintGnome and the thing is, I'm pretty sure Ingram was open in the flat Maybe so. But Winston had broken through the initial rush and was clear to run had the tampon defender not made a play he KNOWS he’s not supposed to do. Josh Allen and Mahomes earn their living making plays like the one Winston was trying to make. SmashMouth likes this.

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SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Jameis Winston says “everything is going great” in his return from knee injury Originally Posted by Boston Saint Maybe so. But Winston had broken through the initial rush and was clear to run had the tampon defender not made a play he KNOWS he’s not supposed to do. Josh Allen and Mahomes earn their living making plays like the one Winston was trying to make. Yeah, I feel you at the time I mentioned given that the horse collar is almost always causes injury the penalty should be greater at least an ejection, fine, and possibly suspension. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jameis Winston says “everything is going great” in his return from knee injury Originally Posted by Boston Saint Maybe so. But Winston had broken through the initial rush and was clear to run had the tampon defender not made a play he KNOWS he’s not supposed to do. Josh Allen and Mahomes earn their living making plays like the one Winston was trying to make. Originally Posted by SaintGnome Yeah, I feel you at the time I mentioned given that the horse collar is almost always causes injury the penalty should be greater at least an ejection, fine, and possibly suspension. Thing is... despite that play and how bad it looked, it was technically not a horse collar. The jersey was grabbed... and was grabbed strong enough so that Winston could not pull away. This portends to behoving a QB to realize his limitations and gracefully and uneventfully go down rather than attempt to fight through, somewhat like Aaron Rodgers does. We've seen over the years a number of players, and not just at the QB position, with an innate ability to feel tacklers and see them gracefully avoid them or go down sans injury. Maybe Jameis learned from this going forward.

06-28-2022, 02:34 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Jameis Winston says “everything is going great” in his return from knee injury Originally Posted by SmashMouth Thing is... despite that play and how bad it looked, it was technically not a horse collar. The jersey was grabbed... and was grabbed strong enough so that Winston could not pull away. This portends to behoving a QB to realize his limitations and gracefully and uneventfully go down rather than attempt to fight through, somewhat like Aaron Rodgers does. We've seen over the years a number of players, and not just at the QB position, with an innate ability to feel tacklers and see them gracefully avoid them or go down sans injury. Maybe Jameis learned from this going forward. Interesting take Smash. This site thinks it was a horse collar… https://fansided.com/2021/11/01/nfl-...explained/amp/ I agree with you about players being able to “sense” these things.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Jameis Winston says “everything is going great” in his return from knee injury Originally Posted by SmashMouth Thing is... despite that play and how bad it looked, it was technically not a horse collar. The jersey was grabbed... and was grabbed strong enough so that Winston could not pull away. This portends to behoving a QB to realize his limitations and gracefully and uneventfully go down rather than attempt to fight through, somewhat like Aaron Rodgers does. We've seen over the years a number of players, and not just at the QB position, with an innate ability to feel tacklers and see them gracefully avoid them or go down sans injury. Maybe Jameis learned from this going forward. Originally Posted by Boston Saint Interesting take Smash. This site thinks it was a horse collar… https://fansided.com/2021/11/01/nfl-...explained/amp/ I agree with you about players being able to “sense” these things. It was definitely a horse collar tackle. That's why the league fined Devin White $15,450 after reviewing the play. Rugby Saint II likes this.