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Old 07-08-2022, 05:54 PM   #1
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Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason

Given we are far, far closer to the end of our lives than most here and my wife and I have both worked hard to get to the point where we can spend the rest of them enjoying our Saints and whatever other passions we enjoy, I can honestly say no. Not to mention we also finally scored our dream season tickets after a fifteen year wait on the list. Had it been forty years ago, it likely would have been another answer, but I believe I would have regretted it knowing what I know now.
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Given we are far, far closer to the end of our lives than most here and my wife and I have both worked hard to get to the point where we can spend the rest of them enjoying our Saints and whatever other passions we enjoy, I can honestly say no. Not to mention we also finally scored our dream season tickets after a fifteen year wait on the list. Had it been forty years ago, it likely would have been another answer, but I believe I would have regretted it knowing what I know now.
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Old 07-09-2022, 01:59 PM   #3
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I take it you doubt my sincerity. $10 million would not allow us to do anything or go anywhere that we are unable to visit or do today. We have no debts and no desire to relocate from our current home of 30 years. As I said, the Saints are one of our truest passions. We plan our travel around the games. I see no advantage to giving up that passion for a few extra bucks in the bank.
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I take it you doubt my sincerity. $10 million would not allow us to do anything or go anywhere that we are unable to visit or do today. We have no debts and no desire to relocate from our current home of 30 years. As I said, the Saints are one of our truest passions. We plan our travel around the games. I see no advantage to giving up that passion for a few extra bucks in the bank.
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Old 07-08-2022, 08:03 PM   #5
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Sh*t, at my age I wouldn't have to pretend for too long

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I knew this thread was going to go interesting places ! 😛
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Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him.

Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why…

if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one.

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Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him.

Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why…

if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one.
We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice.

The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point.

The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed.

Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan?

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Old 07-11-2022, 04:16 PM   #9
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We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice.

The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point.

The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed.

Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan?
I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post.
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I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post.
Are you a douche because you chose not to give every spare penny to charity? No. I doubt you are.

But, no. The point of the post was what it would take for you sell out on your team affiliation.

Look at it this way. What is your greatest passion beside your family? Would you give that up forever for $10 million? I know people that have a passion for reading. I doubt they'd be willing to never read another book for $10 million. I know people who live for fishing. I know for certain many would never give it up forever for $10 million. The same with people who golf, sail, bike, hunt, collect cars, hike, cruise, travel, play poker, etc. That is their passion and they worked their whole lives to retire and enjoy that passion. Are they being selfish? Hell, yeah. And they have every right to be selfish.

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