Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason

AsylumGuido · 07-11-2022, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Let's see...
Arrogant--check
Condescending--check
Smug--check
Holier-than-thou--check

You're our elephant in the room and you know it.

If you have such a problem with me then PLEASE put me on ignore.

iceshack149 · 07-11-2022, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If you have such a problem with me then PLEASE put me on ignore.

I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away.

AsylumGuido · 07-11-2022, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away.

I am happy for you that your life is so void of problems that you feel I am of some significance in comparison!

saintsfan1976 · 07-11-2022, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Your prerogative. The situation is likely not to occur so it matters not what you believe.

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AsylumGuido · 07-11-2022, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

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Sorry, don't get the relevance there.

Boston Saint · 07-11-2022, 02:48 PM

Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him.

Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why…

if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one.

jnormand · 07-11-2022, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away.

It doesn't work with him. He's on here so much and gets into it with people so often that you see his posts that are quoted anyway. So...yeah. I speak from experience. Lol

AsylumGuido · 07-11-2022, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him.

Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why…

if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one.

We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice.

The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point.

The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed.

Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan?

Boston Saint · 07-11-2022, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice.

The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point.

The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed.

Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan?

I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post.

AsylumGuido · 07-11-2022, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post.

Are you a douche because you chose not to give every spare penny to charity? No. I doubt you are.

But, no. The point of the post was what it would take for you sell out on your team affiliation.

Look at it this way. What is your greatest passion beside your family? Would you give that up forever for $10 million? I know people that have a passion for reading. I doubt they'd be willing to never read another book for $10 million. I know people who live for fishing. I know for certain many would never give it up forever for $10 million. The same with people who golf, sail, bike, hunt, collect cars, hike, cruise, travel, play poker, etc. That is their passion and they worked their whole lives to retire and enjoy that passion. Are they being selfish? Hell, yeah. And they have every right to be selfish.

07-11-2022, 02:13 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,420	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by iceshack149 Let's see... Arrogant--check Condescending--check Smug--check Holier-than-thou--check You're our elephant in the room and you know it. If you have such a problem with me then PLEASE put me on ignore.

07-11-2022, 02:29 PM	#22
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,101 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If you have such a problem with me then PLEASE put me on ignore. I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away. Boston Saint likes this.

07-11-2022, 02:33 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,420	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by iceshack149 I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away. I am happy for you that your life is so void of problems that you feel I am of some significance in comparison!

07-11-2022, 02:35 PM	#24
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,555 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Your prerogative. The situation is likely not to occur so it matters not what you believe. . Boston Saint likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,420	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 . Sorry, don't get the relevance there.

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07-11-2022, 02:48 PM	#26
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,879	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him. Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why… if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one.
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07-11-2022, 03:19 PM	#27
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by iceshack149 I've never used the "ignore" feature. I've been told that ignoring a problem won't make it go away but for you I'll make an exception. You are a problem and you are indeed aware of it but you just won't go away. It doesn't work with him. He's on here so much and gets into it with people so often that you see his posts that are quoted anyway. So...yeah. I speak from experience. Lol iceshack149 likes this.

07-11-2022, 03:49 PM	#28
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,420	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by Boston Saint Guido holds to the idea that only saintfan and I have had issues with him. Like Nowak says in his article “ I wouldn’t trust anyone who says no to the question”. Here is why… if a person was in the financial position that 10 Mill would not sway them in cheering for a team, then they are being short sighted and selfish to those they could make a difference to. Rather than act like a superfan douche who is above it all, they could donate the 10 mill to Gleason’s foundation or any of the other multiple player’s causes and do some good in the Organization’s name all for the price of acting like a Falcon, Niner, Bucs etc fan while deep inside they still pull for the Saints. So, saying “No”makes a person either dishonest or petty. I wouldn’t trust either one. We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice. The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point. The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed. Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan?
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07-11-2022, 04:16 PM	#29
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,879	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We already donate to several charities, including TeamGleason.org, and have since it started. The fact is that the scenario will never happen. But, if one ever did and had a significant amount associated, perhaps it would be considered. I don't know. I simply know with the exact scenario presented it would not be worth the personal sacrifice. The whole scenario, however, deals with how willing a person is to sell their loyalty. There are several factors involved. My loyalty to the Saints is engrained to my core. It includes going to the games and sitting in the very seats I have waited to sit in for almost two decades. It involves doing whatever is needed to watch those games I cannot attend in person. It includes wearing some article of Saints themed clothing almost every day for over three decades. I'm not going to lie to myself and others by pretending to pull for another team and deny the pure pleasure of following the team I love just for some extra money that would just be used as some tax write-off or earning interest. An important part of our lives involve actively supporting the Saints. We gain a great deal of enjoyment from that and have worked hard to get to that point. The author, Jeff Novak, is shortsighted. He sees the world through the eyes of someone with most of their life in front of them. Someone who has most likely not experienced the sort of commitment that a deep down fan has enjoyed. Would you do it for $10? $100? $1,000? $10,000? $100,000? What is your point of no longer being a Saints fan? I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post. iceshack149 likes this.

07-11-2022, 04:57 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,420	Re: Jeff Nowak with the question of this offseason Originally Posted by Boston Saint I don’t care what you donate. You could donate 10 mill more if you weren’t a douche. That’s the point of the post. Are you a douche because you chose not to give every spare penny to charity? No. I doubt you are. But, no. The point of the post was what it would take for you sell out on your team affiliation. Look at it this way. What is your greatest passion beside your family? Would you give that up forever for $10 million? I know people that have a passion for reading. I doubt they'd be willing to never read another book for $10 million. I know people who live for fishing. I know for certain many would never give it up forever for $10 million. The same with people who golf, sail, bike, hunt, collect cars, hike, cruise, travel, play poker, etc. That is their passion and they worked their whole lives to retire and enjoy that passion. Are they being selfish? Hell, yeah. And they have every right to be selfish.
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