Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints

TheOak · 08-08-2022, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

It doesn’t have to be one reason or the other. It could have been a combination of factors that “pushed” Payton to retire so to speak. Burn out, weariness from being screwed over by the league, not having Brees, not enough belief in his QBs, stress in dealing with Kamara’s legal issues and the doubts about Thomas’s return and the overall quality of the offense talent in general coupled with other things could have all been building up
in him. Then, along comes this Miami tampering/offer to Payton. Seems ignorant to deny that this outside influence COULD have played a factor and been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

After BountyGate, suspension, Vicodin, divorce.... I am not sure the recent items amount to much more than background noise.

Boston Saint · 08-08-2022, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

After BountyGate, suspension, Vicodin, divorce.... I am not sure the recent items amount to much more than background noise.

Maybe not. Be he still had a high performing Brees/offense when those issues happened and he was still fairly young. I’m just saying it’s certainly possible that this tampering helped him decide to retire….even in a small amount. Why would there be a penalty for doing it if it weren’t possible?

AsylumGuido · 08-08-2022, 01:51 PM

Here's the official 21 page document on the anti-tampering policy of the league. It goes into great detail on what is and isn't tampering. It also references possible compensation to the offended club under specific circumstances under Section 7(e) ...

NFL ANTI-TAMPERING POLICY

Section 7(e)

Certification by Offended Club. The Commissioner may award compensation to the offended club if it certifies a complaint that initiates an investigation against the offending club. If the offended club declined or otherwise failed to certify such a complaint after the facts of the matter became known or reasonably should have become known to the offended club, the offended club may not receive any potential award of compensation.

If the offended club declined or otherwise failed to certify a complaint that initiates an investigation against the offending club, the offended club’s refusal or failure to certify such a complaint shall not preclude or limit in any way the Commissioner’s final and complete authority to impose discipline upon the offending club or any involved persons.

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What this is basically saying is that if the Saints, and/or the Patriots had introduced evidence of tampering involving their personnel they would have been eligible for some sort of compensation. If they didn't introduce the complaint they cannot receive any compensation.

08-08-2022, 01:04 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint It doesn’t have to be one reason or the other. It could have been a combination of factors that “pushed” Payton to retire so to speak. Burn out, weariness from being screwed over by the league, not having Brees, not enough belief in his QBs, stress in dealing with Kamara’s legal issues and the doubts about Thomas’s return and the overall quality of the offense talent in general coupled with other things could have all been building up in him. Then, along comes this Miami tampering/offer to Payton. Seems ignorant to deny that this outside influence COULD have played a factor and been the straw that broke the camel’s back. After BountyGate, suspension, Vicodin, divorce.... I am not sure the recent items amount to much more than background noise. Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-08-2022, 01:27 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints Originally Posted by TheOak After BountyGate, suspension, Vicodin, divorce.... I am not sure the recent items amount to much more than background noise. Maybe not. Be he still had a high performing Brees/offense when those issues happened and he was still fairly young. I’m just saying it’s certainly possible that this tampering helped him decide to retire….even in a small amount. Why would there be a penalty for doing it if it weren’t possible? Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-08-2022, 01:51 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Dolphins Tampering Penalty Harmed Saints Here's the official 21 page document on the anti-tampering policy of the league. It goes into great detail on what is and isn't tampering. It also references possible compensation to the offended club under specific circumstances under Section 7(e) ... NFL ANTI-TAMPERING POLICY Section 7(e) Certification by Offended Club. The Commissioner may award compensation to the offended club if it certifies a complaint that initiates an investigation against the offending club. If the offended club declined or otherwise failed to certify such a complaint after the facts of the matter became known or reasonably should have become known to the offended club, the offended club may not receive any potential award of compensation. If the offended club declined or otherwise failed to certify a complaint that initiates an investigation against the offending club, the offended club’s refusal or failure to certify such a complaint shall not preclude or limit in any way the Commissioner’s final and complete authority to impose discipline upon the offending club or any involved persons. __________________________________________ What this is basically saying is that if the Saints, and/or the Patriots had introduced evidence of tampering involving their personnel they would have been eligible for some sort of compensation. If they didn't introduce the complaint they cannot receive any compensation. Crusader and Rugby Saint II like this.
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