CGJ Traded to Eagles

08-30-2022, 09:57 PM

jnormand · 08-30-2022, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/RodWalkerNola/st...37213765373953

Will that bring Angry Mark back?

BakoSaint · 08-30-2022, 10:10 PM

I think the concern was that since we couldn't agree to an extension we were going to have to franchise tag him. But the team wants to save the franchise tag for Trequan Smith, Adam Troutman, and/or Zach Baun.

K Major · 08-30-2022, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I think the concern was that since we couldn't agree to an extension we were going to have to franchise tag him. But the team wants to save the franchise tag for Trequan Smith, Adam Troutman, and/or Zach Baun.

Lol, what?!

I hope that's sarcasm.

BakoSaint · 08-30-2022, 10:58 PM

Also the value on this trade for the Eagles is really good. They get an attitude setting great starter but thats not the best part. The amount our 1st round pick they possess will move up due to the extra losses this will give us is worth more than the picks they had to give up. I think I heard they gave up a 5th and 6th. Assume we lose 1 extra game due to missing CGJ and our 1st round round pick they have moves up 3-4 spots. A 5th and 6th round pick to move up 3-4 slots in the 1st round is cheap, even if they didn't get an emerging star who 'refused to talk to coaches' when he was holding in during training camp for a new deal. Michael Thomas refused to talk to coaches for half a year and we are purging the team of anyone he ever got in a fight with.

jnormand · 08-31-2022, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I think the concern was that since we couldn't agree to an extension we were going to have to franchise tag him. But the team wants to save the franchise tag for Trequan Smith, Adam Troutman, and/or Zach Baun.

Lord knows the offense just wouldn't be dominant without 3quan! Lol!!! Love it Bako!!

Rugby Saint II · 08-31-2022, 10:47 AM

We got CGJ in the fourth round because of character concerns. Those concerns may have reared their ugly head again and DA wasn't having any of it. Apparently, things became difficult after negotiations broke down and things deteriorated between him and the organization. I don't want to say that he was a cancer, like I see all the time, that is no more than pure speculation.

The fact is now he is an Eagle and we have a couple of extra draft picks. It's better than having an unhappy player in the locker room for a year.

Boston Saint · 08-31-2022, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We got CGJ in the fourth round because of character concerns. Those concerns may have reared their ugly head again and DA wasn't having any of it. Apparently, things became difficult after negotiations broke down and things deteriorated between him and the organization. I don't want to say that he was a cancer, like I see all the time, that is no more than pure speculation.

The fact is now he is an Eagle and we have a couple of extra draft picks. It's better than having an unhappy player in the locker room for a year.

That about sums it up!

BakoSaint · 08-31-2022, 10:54 AM

Aaron Rodgers has character concerns and the Packers kept him. Jalen Ramsey had character concerns and his relationship broke down with the team and he demanded a megadeal but the the Jaguars still got premium value for him. CGJ was ‘holding in’ which is like holding out except you technically show up and read magazines so you cant be fined as a no show, so of course he was not ‘coachable’ during that episode. Dozens of players did holding in during the camp / preseason. No other team dropped a starter for peanuts because of it. Eventually his holdin would have ended like most and if he didnt listen to coaches we could limit his playing time. He is a competitor and with limited or no playing time he would get bored and start listening for the chance to get on the field. Then we could trade him for actual value if we wanted. We say we feel confident in our other safeties but Mathieu is old and both Mathieu and Maye have long injury histories. Sometimes I think we dump key depth players and dump mid round draft picks because we dont want to have depth because we prefer to be able to blame injuries when we lose vs having the pressure of winning.

turbo_dog · 08-31-2022, 10:56 AM

This was one of those, "He's a jerk, but he's our jerk!" situations. I loved how he got in the head of other teams, and the swagger he brought on the field. If it was only money, I think they could've found a way to work it out. We don't know everything, I'm sure.

As long as the guys in the locker room aren't upset, the team moves on. And from every video, twitter post, news article, it seems like nobody is mad at this. I wish they could've gotten higher draft pick or a player in one of our areas of need, but I'm sure this is the best deal they could work.

Move forward to the championship!

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/RodWalkerNola/st...37213765373953 Will that bring Angry Mark back? SmashMouth likes this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles I think the concern was that since we couldn't agree to an extension we were going to have to franchise tag him. But the team wants to save the franchise tag for Trequan Smith, Adam Troutman, and/or Zach Baun. jnormand, turbo_dog, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.
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08-30-2022, 10:44 PM	#64
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Originally Posted by BakoSaint I think the concern was that since we couldn't agree to an extension we were going to have to franchise tag him. But the team wants to save the franchise tag for Trequan Smith, Adam Troutman, and/or Zach Baun. Lol, what?! I hope that's sarcasm. Papa Voodoo and SmashMouth like this.

08-30-2022, 10:58 PM	#65
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Also the value on this trade for the Eagles is really good. They get an attitude setting great starter but thats not the best part. The amount our 1st round pick they possess will move up due to the extra losses this will give us is worth more than the picks they had to give up. I think I heard they gave up a 5th and 6th. Assume we lose 1 extra game due to missing CGJ and our 1st round round pick they have moves up 3-4 spots. A 5th and 6th round pick to move up 3-4 slots in the 1st round is cheap, even if they didn't get an emerging star who 'refused to talk to coaches' when he was holding in during training camp for a new deal. Michael Thomas refused to talk to coaches for half a year and we are purging the team of anyone he ever got in a fight with.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Originally Posted by BakoSaint I think the concern was that since we couldn't agree to an extension we were going to have to franchise tag him. But the team wants to save the franchise tag for Trequan Smith, Adam Troutman, and/or Zach Baun. Lord knows the offense just wouldn't be dominant without 3quan! Lol!!! Love it Bako!! Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles We got CGJ in the fourth round because of character concerns. Those concerns may have reared their ugly head again and DA wasn't having any of it. Apparently, things became difficult after negotiations broke down and things deteriorated between him and the organization. I don't want to say that he was a cancer, like I see all the time, that is no more than pure speculation. The fact is now he is an Eagle and we have a couple of extra draft picks. It's better than having an unhappy player in the locker room for a year. SaintFanInATLHELL, turbo_dog, Crusader and 2 others like this.
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08-31-2022, 10:50 AM	#68
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We got CGJ in the fourth round because of character concerns. Those concerns may have reared their ugly head again and DA wasn't having any of it. Apparently, things became difficult after negotiations broke down and things deteriorated between him and the organization. I don't want to say that he was a cancer, like I see all the time, that is no more than pure speculation. The fact is now he is an Eagle and we have a couple of extra draft picks. It's better than having an unhappy player in the locker room for a year. That about sums it up!

08-31-2022, 10:54 AM	#69
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Aaron Rodgers has character concerns and the Packers kept him. Jalen Ramsey had character concerns and his relationship broke down with the team and he demanded a megadeal but the the Jaguars still got premium value for him. CGJ was ‘holding in’ which is like holding out except you technically show up and read magazines so you cant be fined as a no show, so of course he was not ‘coachable’ during that episode. Dozens of players did holding in during the camp / preseason. No other team dropped a starter for peanuts because of it. Eventually his holdin would have ended like most and if he didnt listen to coaches we could limit his playing time. He is a competitor and with limited or no playing time he would get bored and start listening for the chance to get on the field. Then we could trade him for actual value if we wanted. We say we feel confident in our other safeties but Mathieu is old and both Mathieu and Maye have long injury histories. Sometimes I think we dump key depth players and dump mid round draft picks because we dont want to have depth because we prefer to be able to blame injuries when we lose vs having the pressure of winning.
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08-31-2022, 10:56 AM	#70
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles This was one of those, "He's a jerk, but he's our jerk!" situations. I loved how he got in the head of other teams, and the swagger he brought on the field. If it was only money, I think they could've found a way to work it out. We don't know everything, I'm sure. As long as the guys in the locker room aren't upset, the team moves on. And from every video, twitter post, news article, it seems like nobody is mad at this. I wish they could've gotten higher draft pick or a player in one of our areas of need, but I'm sure this is the best deal they could work. Move forward to the championship! jnormand likes this.