CGJ Traded to Eagles

BakoSaint · 08-31-2022, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Completely misses the culture issue. Ceedy was doing his own version of quiet quitting by not participating and not taking coaching direction. No matter the pick, it makes no sense to expose the locker room to an entire year of what clearly heading into the direction of antics for not getting his deal. Yes the Saints may have gotten better compensation. But at the expense of having the disruption and distraction of a disgruntled player for an entire season.

SFIAH

This is called a ‘Hold In’ and is a new twist on a ‘Hold Out’ that avoids fines. Many many players did it for some period during the offseason. All the other teams waited them out. CGJ is a competitor and if he lost playing time due to it he would cut it out. We are the only team that freaked out. Next we will trade Penning for a 5th. He already got in a camp fight so all he has to do is ask for a raise and be pissy for a bit in offseason like players on every team do and we will freak and bail.

WW_Who_Dat · 09-01-2022, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

This is called a ‘Hold In’ and is a new twist on a ‘Hold Out’ that avoids fines. Many many players did it for some period during the offseason. All the other teams waited them out. CGJ is a competitor and if he lost playing time due to it he would cut it out. We are the only team that freaked out. Next we will trade Penning for a 5th. He already got in a camp fight so all he has to do is ask for a raise and be pissy for a bit in offseason like players on every team do and we will freak and bail.

Completely missed him calling out coaches when had a minor injury, saying got you want you don’t have to pay me. Then a tweet calling out DA about a comment that DA made during post practice interview that CJ had an issue with cramps. Additionally he was not responding to coaches during practice.

The Saints didn’t freak they made the decision it was best to remove the obvious distraction. We as fans have very limited view into the day to day dynamic that goes on.

I don’t think this move was ideal, liked CJ but this decision was made by those who had seen and heard enough and felt the team had the talent to move forward without CJ.

Not hard to see the drive and swagger he had on the field carry over into how he possibly approach this impasse with the Saints. PROVOCATEUR Extraordinaire.

Do wish CJ the best except when we play Philly but hope they beatup the Cowgirls twice this season.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-01-2022, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

This is called a ‘Hold In’ and is a new twist on a ‘Hold Out’ that avoids fines. Many many players did it for some period during the offseason. All the other teams waited them out. CGJ is a competitor and if he lost playing time due to it he would cut it out. We are the only team that freaked out. Next we will trade Penning for a 5th. He already got in a camp fight so all he has to do is ask for a raise and be pissy for a bit in offseason like players on every team do and we will freak and bail.

Have to disagree. The difference is that other hold-ins (Deebo for example) were not disruptive. We've seen three years of Ceedy being an irritant. It's baked into his personality. It just wasn't going to be possible for him to sit down, be chill, be professional, and find a way to work it out. It would be less a Jalen Ramsey situation (oh my back) in Jacksonville, and more a Keyshawn Johnson situation in Tampa (go home, stay away from the facility, we don't want you).

Is that type of headache really worth a minor upgrade in compensation?

SFIAH

08-31-2022, 10:26 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Completely misses the culture issue. Ceedy was doing his own version of quiet quitting by not participating and not taking coaching direction. No matter the pick, it makes no sense to expose the locker room to an entire year of what clearly heading into the direction of antics for not getting his deal. Yes the Saints may have gotten better compensation. But at the expense of having the disruption and distraction of a disgruntled player for an entire season. SFIAH This is called a ‘Hold In’ and is a new twist on a ‘Hold Out’ that avoids fines. Many many players did it for some period during the offseason. All the other teams waited them out. CGJ is a competitor and if he lost playing time due to it he would cut it out. We are the only team that freaked out. Next we will trade Penning for a 5th. He already got in a camp fight so all he has to do is ask for a raise and be pissy for a bit in offseason like players on every team do and we will freak and bail.
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09-01-2022, 08:21 AM	#2
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,277 Blog Entries: 1	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Originally Posted by BakoSaint This is called a ‘Hold In’ and is a new twist on a ‘Hold Out’ that avoids fines. Many many players did it for some period during the offseason. All the other teams waited them out. CGJ is a competitor and if he lost playing time due to it he would cut it out. We are the only team that freaked out. Next we will trade Penning for a 5th. He already got in a camp fight so all he has to do is ask for a raise and be pissy for a bit in offseason like players on every team do and we will freak and bail. Completely missed him calling out coaches when had a minor injury, saying got you want you don’t have to pay me. Then a tweet calling out DA about a comment that DA made during post practice interview that CJ had an issue with cramps. Additionally he was not responding to coaches during practice. The Saints didn’t freak they made the decision it was best to remove the obvious distraction. We as fans have very limited view into the day to day dynamic that goes on. I don’t think this move was ideal, liked CJ but this decision was made by those who had seen and heard enough and felt the team had the talent to move forward without CJ. Not hard to see the drive and swagger he had on the field carry over into how he possibly approach this impasse with the Saints. PROVOCATEUR Extraordinaire. Do wish CJ the best except when we play Philly but hope they beatup the Cowgirls twice this season. SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.

09-01-2022, 08:42 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: CGJ Traded to Eagles Originally Posted by BakoSaint This is called a ‘Hold In’ and is a new twist on a ‘Hold Out’ that avoids fines. Many many players did it for some period during the offseason. All the other teams waited them out. CGJ is a competitor and if he lost playing time due to it he would cut it out. We are the only team that freaked out. Next we will trade Penning for a 5th. He already got in a camp fight so all he has to do is ask for a raise and be pissy for a bit in offseason like players on every team do and we will freak and bail. Have to disagree. The difference is that other hold-ins (Deebo for example) were not disruptive. We've seen three years of Ceedy being an irritant. It's baked into his personality. It just wasn't going to be possible for him to sit down, be chill, be professional, and find a way to work it out. It would be less a Jalen Ramsey situation (oh my back) in Jacksonville, and more a Keyshawn Johnson situation in Tampa (go home, stay away from the facility, we don't want you). Is that type of headache really worth a minor upgrade in compensation? SFIAH AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.
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