Observations from the Saints come-behind win against Falcons

K Major · 09-11-2022, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Great comeback win by our Saints!

The refs tried 4-5 times to give the game to the Failclowns

Can you shed some light 💡 on the int grounding call on JW?

I’m not clear at all on that one & took away a down.
Was hoping they brought in the ref from the broadcast booth to explain because it appeared to be a questionable flag.

You can’t miss those calls.

AsylumGuido · 09-11-2022, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Can you shed some light 💡 on the int grounding call on JW?

I’m not clear at all on that one & took away a down.
Was hoping they brought in the ref from the broadcast booth to explain because it appeared to be a questionable flag.

The clock wasn't running since the previous play went out of bounds. Winston didn't realize that. You can only legally spike the ball on a running clock snap. If it isn't running it falls under the usual passing rules and requires being outside of the tackle box AND past the line of scrimmage. Neither component was there on the spike.

cmike · 09-11-2022, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The clock wasn't running since the previous play went out of bounds. Winston didn't realize that. You can only legally spike the ball on a running clock snap. If it isn't running it falls under the usual passing rules and requires being outside of the tackle box AND past the line of scrimmage. Neither component was there on the spike.

The spike on 3rd down was even more concerning. Why spike the ball with that much time left. Let the play clock run down then spike.

AsylumGuido · 09-11-2022, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

The spike on 3rd down was even more concerning. Why spike the ball with that much time left. Let the play clock run down then spike.

Exactly! I was wondering the same right away. That was on Pete Carmichael. Payton would have been in his ear letting him know the circumstances. There was more than time enough for another to the sideline to make the kick shorter and use more clock.

turbo_dog · 09-11-2022, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The clock wasn't running since the previous play went out of bounds. Winston didn't realize that. You can only legally spike the ball on a running clock snap. If it isn't running it falls under the usual passing rules and requires being outside of the tackle box AND past the line of scrimmage. Neither component was there on the spike.

Those plays all happened pretty quickly. I don't think these refs were communicating very well. I didn't know what they had called the previous play, especially since Landry got up and ran another ten yards. Not even sure where they spotted it. The announcers in the booth didn't seem to know either.

There was another play where it was 3rd and 1, and then they changed it to 1st and 10 as the ball was about to be snapped.

09-11-2022, 06:03 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints come-behind win against Falcons Originally Posted by turbo_dog Great comeback win by our Saints! The refs tried 4-5 times to give the game to the Failclowns Can you shed some light 💡 on the int grounding call on JW? I’m not clear at all on that one & took away a down. Was hoping they brought in the ref from the broadcast booth to explain because it appeared to be a questionable flag. You can’t miss those calls.

09-11-2022, 06:08 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from the Saints come-behind win against Falcons Originally Posted by K Major Can you shed some light 💡 on the int grounding call on JW? I’m not clear at all on that one & took away a down. Was hoping they brought in the ref from the broadcast booth to explain because it appeared to be a questionable flag. The clock wasn't running since the previous play went out of bounds. Winston didn't realize that. You can only legally spike the ball on a running clock snap. If it isn't running it falls under the usual passing rules and requires being outside of the tackle box AND past the line of scrimmage. Neither component was there on the spike. Rugby Saint II, cmike and Thirty3 like this.

09-11-2022, 07:51 PM	#3
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Observations from the Saints come-behind win against Falcons Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The clock wasn't running since the previous play went out of bounds. Winston didn't realize that. You can only legally spike the ball on a running clock snap. If it isn't running it falls under the usual passing rules and requires being outside of the tackle box AND past the line of scrimmage. Neither component was there on the spike. The spike on 3rd down was even more concerning. Why spike the ball with that much time left. Let the play clock run down then spike. neugey and FinSaint like this.

09-11-2022, 08:33 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from the Saints come-behind win against Falcons Originally Posted by cmike The spike on 3rd down was even more concerning. Why spike the ball with that much time left. Let the play clock run down then spike. Exactly! I was wondering the same right away. That was on Pete Carmichael. Payton would have been in his ear letting him know the circumstances. There was more than time enough for another to the sideline to make the kick shorter and use more clock. Thirty3 likes this.

09-11-2022, 09:35 PM	#5
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,701	Re: Observations from the Saints come-behind win against Falcons Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The clock wasn't running since the previous play went out of bounds. Winston didn't realize that. You can only legally spike the ball on a running clock snap. If it isn't running it falls under the usual passing rules and requires being outside of the tackle box AND past the line of scrimmage. Neither component was there on the spike. Those plays all happened pretty quickly. I don't think these refs were communicating very well. I didn't know what they had called the previous play, especially since Landry got up and ran another ten yards. Not even sure where they spotted it. The announcers in the booth didn't seem to know either. There was another play where it was 3rd and 1, and then they changed it to 1st and 10 as the ball was about to be snapped. jnormand, SmashMouth and Thirty3 like this.