Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2022, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Give more reps to Washington & TJJ this week. They both looked good running.

Vet or no vet, "good punch out or not", you simply cannot FUMBLE the ball MI. He took points off the board. At worst, we were going up by 3 while Brady was having a hissy fit with his tablet.

That was a HUGE momentum swing. Huge.

Hopefully we get AK back this week vs Carolina.

This exactly! And not having Kamara was huge, as well. Just the threat of Kamara being out there changes both the offensive and opponents' defensive options.

cmike · 09-19-2022, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This exactly! And not having Kamara was huge, as well. Just the threat of Kamara being out there changes both the offensive and opponents' defensive options.

We ran the ball well.
The screens and swing passes were working. I thought the RB’s played well(-fumble) in AK’s absence. The play calling and Jameis’ decision making killed drives.
I saw MT wide open on 2 of the INT’s. Winston is gonna have to take a page from Drew’s book and take what the D gives you.
On the pick6, Mike is standing in the middle of the field with no defender within 10 yards.
We have to do better.

mapcow · 09-19-2022, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This exactly! And not having Kamara was huge, as well. Just the threat of Kamara being out there changes both the offensive and opponents' defensive options.

uh.... no. SMH

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2022, 11:26 AM

I've got to agree with what Underhill says here. Brady was getting that ball out fast. There really wasn't much of an opportunity to put pressure on him.

Budsdrinker · 09-19-2022, 09:01 AM

Look the Ingram fumble was bad, but that punch out of the ball was perfectly executed. I don't think there is a RB in the league that would have held on to the ball on that punch-out. Peanut would be proud. Play calling was terrible. Don't know why we needed to try all the deep throws to Olave. 1-6 with 2 turnovers. Give me 7-10 yard slants and moving the chains all day. We were gashing them running the ball. Need to run at least 30 times a game. Winston tried to force too many passes. He's got to take what the defense is giving him. D play was borderline great. Just a couple missed assignments but usually it was when a there was a change in coverage. I understand not blitzing Brady but 3 and 4 man rush majority of the time ain't going to get it done against him either. Send a 5th guy at least once a possession. It's a long season and the starters are just starting to play together. They will get better.

K Major · 09-19-2022, 09:16 AM

Stop force feeding Olave.

He was targeted at least 12 times on yesterday.

turbo_dog · 09-19-2022, 09:44 AM

I felt the defense played good as a whole. You can't expect them to hold forever when the offense turns the ball over so much. And that first touchdown was a gift from the refs with three mystery flags.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-19-2022, 09:51 AM

Every qb has a bad game or two. Even Rodgers and Brady. Now if it’s going on five games then you can start to wonder. But to me I think the offense problem is the play calling, the o-lines inability to recognize where the blitz is coming from, and a gelling issue. The D-line not feasting on a make shift Tampa o-line is a cause for concern too. I also feel you should play starters in the preseason for at least a quarter for two of the games.

K Major · 09-19-2022, 12:17 PM

Bobby Hebert's rant after Saints stumble in loss to Bucs: The better team lost today - YouTube

cmike · 09-19-2022, 01:30 PM

SMH how MT’s name is even being discussed in a negative light today.

09-19-2022, 08:57 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs Originally Posted by K Major Give more reps to Washington & TJJ this week. They both looked good running. Vet or no vet, "good punch out or not", you simply cannot FUMBLE the ball MI. He took points off the board. At worst, we were going up by 3 while Brady was having a hissy fit with his tablet. That was a HUGE momentum swing. Huge. Hopefully we get AK back this week vs Carolina. This exactly! And not having Kamara was huge, as well. Just the threat of Kamara being out there changes both the offensive and opponents' defensive options.

09-19-2022, 09:09 AM	#2
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,448	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This exactly! And not having Kamara was huge, as well. Just the threat of Kamara being out there changes both the offensive and opponents' defensive options. We ran the ball well. The screens and swing passes were working. I thought the RB’s played well(-fumble) in AK’s absence. The play calling and Jameis’ decision making killed drives. I saw MT wide open on 2 of the INT’s. Winston is gonna have to take a page from Drew’s book and take what the D gives you. On the pick6, Mike is standing in the middle of the field with no defender within 10 yards. We have to do better. Thirty3 likes this.

09-19-2022, 10:55 AM	#3
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This exactly! And not having Kamara was huge, as well. Just the threat of Kamara being out there changes both the offensive and opponents' defensive options. uh.... no. SMH
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09-19-2022, 11:26 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs I've got to agree with what Underhill says here. Brady was getting that ball out fast. There really wasn't much of an opportunity to put pressure on him. Twitter

09-19-2022, 09:01 AM	#5
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs Look the Ingram fumble was bad, but that punch out of the ball was perfectly executed. I don't think there is a RB in the league that would have held on to the ball on that punch-out. Peanut would be proud. Play calling was terrible. Don't know why we needed to try all the deep throws to Olave. 1-6 with 2 turnovers. Give me 7-10 yard slants and moving the chains all day. We were gashing them running the ball. Need to run at least 30 times a game. Winston tried to force too many passes. He's got to take what the defense is giving him. D play was borderline great. Just a couple missed assignments but usually it was when a there was a change in coverage. I understand not blitzing Brady but 3 and 4 man rush majority of the time ain't going to get it done against him either. Send a 5th guy at least once a possession. It's a long season and the starters are just starting to play together. They will get better. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-19-2022, 09:16 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs Stop force feeding Olave. He was targeted at least 12 times on yesterday. leilung likes this.

09-19-2022, 09:44 AM	#7
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,708	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs I felt the defense played good as a whole. You can't expect them to hold forever when the offense turns the ball over so much. And that first touchdown was a gift from the refs with three mystery flags. Boston Saint likes this.

09-19-2022, 09:51 AM	#8
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs Every qb has a bad game or two. Even Rodgers and Brady. Now if it’s going on five games then you can start to wonder. But to me I think the offense problem is the play calling, the o-lines inability to recognize where the blitz is coming from, and a gelling issue. The D-line not feasting on a make shift Tampa o-line is a cause for concern too. I also feel you should play starters in the preseason for at least a quarter for two of the games. leilung and Boston Saint like this.

09-19-2022, 01:30 PM	#10
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,448	Re: Observations from the Saints' Loss to the Bucs SMH how MT’s name is even being discussed in a negative light today. AsylumGuido likes this.