Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2022, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The bottom line is Winston needs to play better. He's performed poorly for two straight weeks. Lack of pocket awareness, holding the ball too long whatever, do better.

Now if he's injured and needs to get healthy, have a seat. Dalton is more than capable vs Carolina.

We all just want to win.

Yes. We all just want to win. Probably no more than does the coaches and players.

Pete · 09-20-2022, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Okay, got the scoop on the Winston injury. According to Dr. David Chou what Jameis is dealing with are fractures to the Transverse process

This is the same type of injury that Tony Romo played with a few years ago and other players have, as well. In other words, we really can't blame the injury itself on Winston's performance. The padding, maybe, but not the actual injury.

Ok AG
that's cool to see the actual place of damage in the picture, but can we really say that it can't be blamed on that ?
Certain people have different tolerances and thresholds when it comes to pain I'm pretty sure..

I googled that fracture and it's saying it's a 4-6 week healing process with rest.

I don't think it's Jameis' main issue right now but it certainly cannot help the matter any imo.
The padding added I could also see that contributing too and being valid.

In between the guys critiquing his film and his drs, they just need to get this straight and quickly if you ask me so there's no more excuses to possibly lean on.

Get healthy and bring the goods or have a seat, or have a seat until ready like other members here have mentioned.

There's a few statistics I'm starting to see with pocket awareness/presence not being a strong suit of his at the moment.

Again, many things are having to be factored in..

Everyone's rightfully losing patience.

Budsdrinker · 09-21-2022, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

About the only positive I can take from this game is the major improvement along the offensive line against one of the leagues best defenses. Winston and Olave should be working overtime this week to get their timing down. Some of those balls were so off target I have a hard time putting the blame on Olave.
I’ve been a Winston supporter and admire the hell out of his toughness, leadership, and attitude but I hope DA doesn’t wait until it’s too late to make a switch if it comes to that. I think Dalton could have a good year with us .

They did get their timing right on the last pass and Olave fumbled the ball hitting the ground. This was lack of playing together in preseason. Game speed and practice speed are 2 completely different speeds. I just don't think we need to throw this 6 times a game.

09-20-2022, 04:12 PM	#31
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Originally Posted by K Major The bottom line is Winston needs to play better. He's performed poorly for two straight weeks. Lack of pocket awareness, holding the ball too long whatever, do better. Now if he's injured and needs to get healthy, have a seat. Dalton is more than capable vs Carolina. We all just want to win. Yes. We all just want to win. Probably no more than does the coaches and players.

09-20-2022, 10:49 PM	#32
Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,741	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Okay, got the scoop on the Winston injury. According to Dr. David Chou what Jameis is dealing with are fractures to the Transverse process This is the same type of injury that Tony Romo played with a few years ago and other players have, as well. In other words, we really can't blame the injury itself on Winston's performance. The padding, maybe, but not the actual injury. Ok AG that's cool to see the actual place of damage in the picture, but can we really say that it can't be blamed on that ? Certain people have different tolerances and thresholds when it comes to pain I'm pretty sure.. I googled that fracture and it's saying it's a 4-6 week healing process with rest. I don't think it's Jameis' main issue right now but it certainly cannot help the matter any imo. The padding added I could also see that contributing too and being valid. In between the guys critiquing his film and his drs, they just need to get this straight and quickly if you ask me so there's no more excuses to possibly lean on. Get healthy and bring the goods or have a seat, or have a seat until ready like other members here have mentioned. There's a few statistics I'm starting to see with pocket awareness/presence not being a strong suit of his at the moment. Again, many things are having to be factored in.. Everyone's rightfully losing patience.
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09-21-2022, 10:53 AM	#33
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Best and worst Saints PFF player grades from Week 2 vs. Buccaneers Originally Posted by The Dude About the only positive I can take from this game is the major improvement along the offensive line against one of the leagues best defenses. Winston and Olave should be working overtime this week to get their timing down. Some of those balls were so off target I have a hard time putting the blame on Olave. I’ve been a Winston supporter and admire the hell out of his toughness, leadership, and attitude but I hope DA doesn’t wait until it’s too late to make a switch if it comes to that. I think Dalton could have a good year with us . They did get their timing right on the last pass and Olave fumbled the ball hitting the ground. This was lack of playing together in preseason. Game speed and practice speed are 2 completely different speeds. I just don't think we need to throw this 6 times a game. Lord_Saint83 likes this.

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