Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected

MatthewT · 12-01-2022, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The guy hasn't played a single meaningful game at his drafted position and you're labeling him a possible bust? I'm not sure what you are basing your evaluation on, but Penning only played SIX offensive snaps and one special team snap versus the 49er's. On offense he was brought in as an eligible receiver. He hasn't even played a single snap at left tackle yet.

Possible 1st round LT bust, not a complete bust, I think he may need to be moved to guard. His preseason performance, he was exceptional against the run, and he was horrible with pass blocking. As a rookie, it is one thing to get burned by starting edge rushers and a completely different thing to be burned by guys who will likely not make an NFL roster. Like I said, I hope I am wrong about him, but generally guys who play guard do not need to be taken in the 1st round and can be had with day 3 draft picks.

AsylumGuido · 12-01-2022, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Possible 1st round LT bust, not a complete bust, I think he may need to be moved to guard. His preseason performance, he was exceptional against the run, and he was horrible with pass blocking. As a rookie, it is one thing to get burned by starting edge rushers and a completely different thing to be burned by guys who will likely not make an NFL roster. Like I said, I hope I am wrong about him, but generally guys who play guard do not need to be taken in the 1st round and can be had with day 3 draft picks.

Once again, he hasn't taken a single snap in a meaningful game at LT. I honestly can't see any way he could have been evaluated at the position yet by anyone. Some of the best tackles in the game really didn't become efficient immediately out of the gate. Penning hasn't even been released from the gate, yet.

K Major · 12-01-2022, 01:15 PM

Saw him briefly in the San Fran game.

A simple analysis is that Trevor performed like a rusty rookie in his first game.

It happens (Armstead initially struggled). TP will improve with reps and live game action.

saintsfan1976 · 12-01-2022, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Possible 1st round LT bust, not a complete bust, I think he may need to be moved to guard. His preseason performance, he was exceptional against the run, and he was horrible with pass blocking. As a rookie, it is one thing to get burned by starting edge rushers and a completely different thing to be burned by guys who will likely not make an NFL roster. Like I said, I hope I am wrong about him, but generally guys who play guard do not need to be taken in the 1st round and can be had with day 3 draft picks.

Too soon. Way to soon.

Rugby Saint II · 12-02-2022, 02:59 PM

Penning will likely have a slow start to becoming a seasoned veteran with the more playing time he gets each week. As aggressive as he is I fully expect quite a few penalties in the beginning before he gets a grip on things. That's why I want to see him get playing time this year when it doesn't matter anymore compared to next year when we're starting fresh and have the chance of winning the Lombardi.

K Major · 01-09-2023, 02:55 PM

FYI ..

Trevor Penning has lisfranc injury.

Upcoming surgery. This is why I'm never in a "rush" to get players back after a toe/foot injury.

Per Nick Underhill.

saintsfan1976 · 01-09-2023, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

FYI ..

Trevor Penning has lisfranc injury.

Upcoming surgery. This is why I'm never in a "rush" to get players back after a toe/foot injury.

Per Nick Underhill.

June 2024 return.

is it me or are we having more of these types of injuries than other teams. No idea...

My question - IS IT OUR TURF???

Rugby Saint II · 01-10-2023, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

June 2024 return.

is it me or are we having more of these types of injuries than other teams. No idea...

My question - IS IT OUR TURF???

Either that or it's the Terrible training staff and medical doctors. I'm leaning toward the training staff and lack of medical doctors with common sense. We keep rushing these players back out there and stunting their development.

AsylumGuido · 01-10-2023, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Either that or it's the Terrible training staff and medical doctors. I'm leaning toward the training staff and lack of medical doctors with common sense. We keep rushing these players back out there and stunting their development.

Training staffs and team doctors have no impact on foot and toe injuries. That has more to do with playing surface and footwear. We notice those injuries to our players, but they are becoming more and more common all across the league.

SmashMouth · 01-10-2023, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Training staffs and team doctors have no impact on foot and toe injuries. That has more to do with playing surface and footwear. We notice those injuries to our players, but they are becoming more and more common all across the league.

So turf issues and/or shoe issues. Can the Saints get their money back from either of those manufacturers ?

12-01-2022, 12:59 PM	#31
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The guy hasn't played a single meaningful game at his drafted position and you're labeling him a possible bust? I'm not sure what you are basing your evaluation on, but Penning only played SIX offensive snaps and one special team snap versus the 49er's. On offense he was brought in as an eligible receiver. He hasn't even played a single snap at left tackle yet. Possible 1st round LT bust, not a complete bust, I think he may need to be moved to guard. His preseason performance, he was exceptional against the run, and he was horrible with pass blocking. As a rookie, it is one thing to get burned by starting edge rushers and a completely different thing to be burned by guys who will likely not make an NFL roster. Like I said, I hope I am wrong about him, but generally guys who play guard do not need to be taken in the 1st round and can be had with day 3 draft picks.

12-01-2022, 01:12 PM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Originally Posted by MatthewT Possible 1st round LT bust, not a complete bust, I think he may need to be moved to guard. His preseason performance, he was exceptional against the run, and he was horrible with pass blocking. As a rookie, it is one thing to get burned by starting edge rushers and a completely different thing to be burned by guys who will likely not make an NFL roster. Like I said, I hope I am wrong about him, but generally guys who play guard do not need to be taken in the 1st round and can be had with day 3 draft picks. Once again, he hasn't taken a single snap in a meaningful game at LT. I honestly can't see any way he could have been evaluated at the position yet by anyone. Some of the best tackles in the game really didn't become efficient immediately out of the gate. Penning hasn't even been released from the gate, yet.

12-01-2022, 01:15 PM	#33
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Saw him briefly in the San Fran game. A simple analysis is that Trevor performed like a rusty rookie in his first game. It happens (Armstead initially struggled). TP will improve with reps and live game action. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth, WW_Who_Dat and 1 others like this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Originally Posted by MatthewT Possible 1st round LT bust, not a complete bust, I think he may need to be moved to guard. His preseason performance, he was exceptional against the run, and he was horrible with pass blocking. As a rookie, it is one thing to get burned by starting edge rushers and a completely different thing to be burned by guys who will likely not make an NFL roster. Like I said, I hope I am wrong about him, but generally guys who play guard do not need to be taken in the 1st round and can be had with day 3 draft picks. Too soon. Way to soon. AsylumGuido likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Penning will likely have a slow start to becoming a seasoned veteran with the more playing time he gets each week. As aggressive as he is I fully expect quite a few penalties in the beginning before he gets a grip on things. That's why I want to see him get playing time this year when it doesn't matter anymore compared to next year when we're starting fresh and have the chance of winning the Lombardi.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected FYI .. Trevor Penning has lisfranc injury. Upcoming surgery. This is why I'm never in a "rush" to get players back after a toe/foot injury. Per Nick Underhill. SmashMouth likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Originally Posted by K Major FYI .. Trevor Penning has lisfranc injury. Upcoming surgery. This is why I'm never in a "rush" to get players back after a toe/foot injury. Per Nick Underhill. June 2024 return. is it me or are we having more of these types of injuries than other teams. No idea... My question - IS IT OUR TURF??? Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 June 2024 return. is it me or are we having more of these types of injuries than other teams. No idea... My question - IS IT OUR TURF??? Either that or it's the Terrible training staff and medical doctors. I'm leaning toward the training staff and lack of medical doctors with common sense. We keep rushing these players back out there and stunting their development.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Either that or it's the Terrible training staff and medical doctors. I'm leaning toward the training staff and lack of medical doctors with common sense. We keep rushing these players back out there and stunting their development. Training staffs and team doctors have no impact on foot and toe injuries. That has more to do with playing surface and footwear. We notice those injuries to our players, but they are becoming more and more common all across the league.

01-10-2023, 11:55 AM	#40
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints Rookie Trevor Penning Could Return Sooner Than Expected Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Training staffs and team doctors have no impact on foot and toe injuries. That has more to do with playing surface and footwear. We notice those injuries to our players, but they are becoming more and more common all across the league. So turf issues and/or shoe issues. Can the Saints get their money back from either of those manufacturers ?