Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers

K Major · 09-27-2022, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Not sure if this was posted yet. Sorry if so. This video sums up most of my thoughts…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=94EQd2lK59k

Matt touched on an interesting name for me ...

Deonte' Harty. Was he a healthy scratch? Noticed we had Landry on punt returns and Washington on kick-offs.

Harty is an electric player that has a knack for making big plays - we need him on the field. Interesting that he didn't play. Especially considering Taysom was out.

Saints OC needs to be more creative with our playmakers going forward.

Boston Saint · 09-27-2022, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I don't know how much longer it can be called "Offensive Struggles" because it's not like they are "usually good" and had an off day. They are consistently awful, so it's just the same old offense.

True dizz. But as this video points out, look at the first drive. We had a completion down to the 19 that was called back because of a bs penalty. That’s a successful drive to start the game. If they get even three points there the tone is different. Add that with a fumble 6 and two missed/ locked field goals and that’s a 16 point swing.

iceshack149 · 09-27-2022, 01:31 PM

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far...

Boston Saint · 09-27-2022, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC in the NFL so far...

Ahh…go catch a fish! 😝

TheOak · 09-27-2022, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far...

Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back.

shawnkytonk · 09-27-2022, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far...

Well it was used to address a very important need in us getting a starting LT. I'm not ready to write off this season after 3 weeks, and we haven't seen him play in the regular season yet.

Boston Saint · 09-27-2022, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back.

I LOLed at that Oak!

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2022, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Well it was used to address a very important need in us getting a starting LT. I'm not ready to write off this season after 3 weeks, and we haven't seen him play in the regular season yet.

Me either, shawnky. Hopefully that 1st rounder the Eagles got will be quite a bit lower than they hope. And if what we are seeing out of Hurst is any indication, I can't wait to see Penning back on the field. At least it will give a more of a sense of aggressiveness than we've seen thus far.

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2022, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back.

You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in.

BakoSaint · 09-28-2022, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in.

Lets say there is a QB we like who is expected to go #1 overall. If we had the #1 overall pick we could just take him. If we had a top 5 pick we could trade up. What sort of package would you propose that Loomis offer for the #1 overall pick that doesnt include any current year 1st rounders? What is the precedent that such a trade would be accepted? What if we want a player who will go 5th or 10th in the 1st? How much will we have to give up with no 1st rounder at all to offer? Seems like the cost will be exorbitant? Trading future picks is like taking out a loan with high interest. Now you are talking about taking out one high interest loan to pay another.

09-27-2022, 01:26 PM	#61
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,037 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by Boston Saint Not sure if this was posted yet. Sorry if so. This video sums up most of my thoughts… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=94EQd2lK59k Matt touched on an interesting name for me ... Deonte' Harty. Was he a healthy scratch? Noticed we had Landry on punt returns and Washington on kick-offs. Harty is an electric player that has a knack for making big plays - we need him on the field. Interesting that he didn't play. Especially considering Taysom was out. Saints OC needs to be more creative with our playmakers going forward. leilung and Boston Saint like this.

09-27-2022, 01:29 PM	#62
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,870	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by dizzle88 I don't know how much longer it can be called "Offensive Struggles" because it's not like they are "usually good" and had an off day. They are consistently awful, so it's just the same old offense. True dizz. But as this video points out, look at the first drive. We had a completion down to the 19 that was called back because of a bs penalty. That’s a successful drive to start the game. If they get even three points there the tone is different. Add that with a fumble 6 and two missed/ locked field goals and that’s a 16 point swing. leilung and dizzle88 like this.

09-27-2022, 01:31 PM	#63
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,090 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far... jnormand, TheOak, K Major and 1 others like this.

09-27-2022, 01:33 PM	#64
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,870	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by iceshack149 At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC in the NFL so far... Ahh…go catch a fish! 😝 iceshack149 likes this.

09-27-2022, 01:49 PM	#65
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by iceshack149 At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far... Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 736	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by iceshack149 At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far... Well it was used to address a very important need in us getting a starting LT. I'm not ready to write off this season after 3 weeks, and we haven't seen him play in the regular season yet. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-27-2022, 04:22 PM	#67
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,870	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by TheOak Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back. I LOLed at that Oak!

09-27-2022, 04:42 PM	#68
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Well it was used to address a very important need in us getting a starting LT. I'm not ready to write off this season after 3 weeks, and we haven't seen him play in the regular season yet. Me either, shawnky. Hopefully that 1st rounder the Eagles got will be quite a bit lower than they hope. And if what we are seeing out of Hurst is any indication, I can't wait to see Penning back on the field. At least it will give a more of a sense of aggressiveness than we've seen thus far.

09-27-2022, 04:44 PM	#69
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by TheOak Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back. You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in.

09-28-2022, 01:13 AM	#70
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,749	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in. Lets say there is a QB we like who is expected to go #1 overall. If we had the #1 overall pick we could just take him. If we had a top 5 pick we could trade up. What sort of package would you propose that Loomis offer for the #1 overall pick that doesnt include any current year 1st rounders? What is the precedent that such a trade would be accepted? What if we want a player who will go 5th or 10th in the 1st? How much will we have to give up with no 1st rounder at all to offer? Seems like the cost will be exorbitant? Trading future picks is like taking out a loan with high interest. Now you are talking about taking out one high interest loan to pay another.
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