Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers

Boston Saint · 09-27-2022, 01:11 PM

Not sure if this was posted yet. Sorry if so. This video sums up most of my thoughts…

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K Major · 09-27-2022, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Not sure if this was posted yet. Sorry if so. This video sums up most of my thoughts…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=94EQd2lK59k

Matt touched on an interesting name for me ...

Deonte' Harty. Was he a healthy scratch? Noticed we had Landry on punt returns and Washington on kick-offs.

Harty is an electric player that has a knack for making big plays - we need him on the field. Interesting that he didn't play. Especially considering Taysom was out.

Saints OC needs to be more creative with our playmakers going forward.

iceshack149 · 09-27-2022, 01:31 PM

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far...

Boston Saint · 09-27-2022, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC in the NFL so far...

Ahh…go catch a fish! 😝

TheOak · 09-27-2022, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far...

Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back.

Boston Saint · 09-27-2022, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back.

I LOLed at that Oak!

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2022, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back.

You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in.

BakoSaint · 09-28-2022, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in.

Lets say there is a QB we like who is expected to go #1 overall. If we had the #1 overall pick we could just take him. If we had a top 5 pick we could trade up. What sort of package would you propose that Loomis offer for the #1 overall pick that doesnt include any current year 1st rounders? What is the precedent that such a trade would be accepted? What if we want a player who will go 5th or 10th in the 1st? How much will we have to give up with no 1st rounder at all to offer? Seems like the cost will be exorbitant? Trading future picks is like taking out a loan with high interest. Now you are talking about taking out one high interest loan to pay another.

AsylumGuido · 09-28-2022, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Lets say there is a QB we like who is expected to go #1 overall. If we had the #1 overall pick we could just take him. If we had a top 5 pick we could trade up. What sort of package would you propose that Loomis offer for the #1 overall pick that doesnt include any current year 1st rounders? What is the precedent that such a trade would be accepted? What if we want a player who will go 5th or 10th in the 1st? How much will we have to give up with no 1st rounder at all to offer? Seems like the cost will be exorbitant? Trading future picks is like taking out a loan with high interest. Now you are talking about taking out one high interest loan to pay another.

Of course we don't move up to #1. Even if we still had our2023 1st rounder we would be hard pressed moving up from #32. But, we can still move into the 1st round somewhere.

That said, we didn't waste our 2023 1st. We used it to get arguably the best rookie WR in the draft and what could end up being our starting LT for the next decade. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

shawnkytonk · 09-27-2022, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far...

Well it was used to address a very important need in us getting a starting LT. I'm not ready to write off this season after 3 weeks, and we haven't seen him play in the regular season yet.

09-27-2022, 01:26 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,739 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by Boston Saint Not sure if this was posted yet. Sorry if so. This video sums up most of my thoughts… https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=94EQd2lK59k Matt touched on an interesting name for me ... Deonte' Harty. Was he a healthy scratch? Noticed we had Landry on punt returns and Washington on kick-offs. Harty is an electric player that has a knack for making big plays - we need him on the field. Interesting that he didn't play. Especially considering Taysom was out. Saints OC needs to be more creative with our playmakers going forward. leilung and Boston Saint like this.

09-27-2022, 01:33 PM	#4
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by iceshack149 At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC in the NFL so far... Ahh…go catch a fish! 😝 iceshack149 likes this.

09-27-2022, 01:49 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by iceshack149 At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far... Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

09-27-2022, 04:22 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by TheOak Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back. I LOLed at that Oak!

09-27-2022, 04:44 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by TheOak Didn't you see Draft Day? We will get that back. You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in.

09-27-2022, 01:31 PM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,337 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far... jnormand, TheOak, K Major and 1 others like this.

09-28-2022, 01:13 AM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,304	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You jest, but if there is someone that Loomis wants in the first he's very capable of making the moves to trade back in. Lets say there is a QB we like who is expected to go #1 overall. If we had the #1 overall pick we could just take him. If we had a top 5 pick we could trade up. What sort of package would you propose that Loomis offer for the #1 overall pick that doesnt include any current year 1st rounders? What is the precedent that such a trade would be accepted? What if we want a player who will go 5th or 10th in the 1st? How much will we have to give up with no 1st rounder at all to offer? Seems like the cost will be exorbitant? Trading future picks is like taking out a loan with high interest. Now you are talking about taking out one high interest loan to pay another.
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09-28-2022, 08:18 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by BakoSaint Lets say there is a QB we like who is expected to go #1 overall. If we had the #1 overall pick we could just take him. If we had a top 5 pick we could trade up. What sort of package would you propose that Loomis offer for the #1 overall pick that doesnt include any current year 1st rounders? What is the precedent that such a trade would be accepted? What if we want a player who will go 5th or 10th in the 1st? How much will we have to give up with no 1st rounder at all to offer? Seems like the cost will be exorbitant? Trading future picks is like taking out a loan with high interest. Now you are talking about taking out one high interest loan to pay another. Of course we don't move up to #1. Even if we still had our2023 1st rounder we would be hard pressed moving up from #32. But, we can still move into the 1st round somewhere. That said, we didn't waste our 2023 1st. We used it to get arguably the best rookie WR in the draft and what could end up being our starting LT for the next decade. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

09-27-2022, 02:12 PM	#10
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss at Panthers Originally Posted by iceshack149 At least we'll have a high first round draft pick next year! Oh, that'll go to the only undefeated NFC team in the NFL so far... Well it was used to address a very important need in us getting a starting LT. I'm not ready to write off this season after 3 weeks, and we haven't seen him play in the regular season yet. AsylumGuido likes this.