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Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 959969)

JW might be done as a starter. AD managed the game without 3 key players and almost pulled out a win vs what could quite possibly be a Super Bowl team. He was far from great but was better than JW has been all season

The difference I saw from Dalton, was he looked like he actually knew the offense.

I saw him multiple times go through progressions and knew exactly where his outlet receiver was.

He wasn't perfect, but he managed the game, Winston would have thrown at least 2 or 3 picks.

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

New week. Same disappointing results. Untimely penalties. Careless turnovers. Missed opportunities all over the field.

I get there have been injuries but man... we are a bad football team right now.

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 959945)

I need blood pressure medicine
The defense kept the team in the game, AGAIN
Olave continues to impress and improve
I'd like to see Olave and Hardy on the field at the same time. Who could cover both of them streaking down the field?
The offensive line had fewer plays where it looked like they were lost
Dalton had about three passes that could have been pick 6
Good job by Tre, Quez, and Traut today
Finally getting some pressure on the QB by the defensive line
Three inches from OT

This is spot on…even though Traut is a huge liability in the blocking scheme.

While Dalton played well enough to win, he like Winston is a gun slinger and made several questionable throws that just happened to not be intercepted.

Watching a few other games today really made me see how poor our game planning is on offense. This team even without AK and MT should be able to make plays and we really failed again to do so.

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

Saints are a very bad team ATM.

It will be hard to get 7,8 wins this season.

No discipline.

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 959977)

Saints are a very bad team ATM.

It will be hard to get 7,8 wins this season.

No discipline.

They have a shot because the defense can be really good sometimes. But Dalton needs to stay the starter. JW is not the guy. And keep Murray in! The guy still can punish defenses!

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 959981)

They have a shot because the defense can be really good sometimes. But Dalton needs to stay the starter. JW is not the guy. And keep Murray in! The guy still can punish defenses!

1-3 before we've even faced the tough stretch. A lot has to change. And quickly.

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

Ever since they got their big contracts guys have not shown up...blah blah. Guys don't choose to be injured it's apart of the game. 4 games into the season not where we would like but it is what it is. Marcus Williams and Von Bell should still be Saints hate seeing them make plays for other teams. 12 more games to go alot more football to be played before its all said and done. A lot of positives to take from the game. Just have to keep getting better.

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 959966)

We can play poorly/suck and it still be the refs. Part of those 10 penalties were undeserved. Part of those 10 penalties should also go to the Vikings and they aren’t. Someone pointed out that the vikings weren’t called for a single holding penalty of offense or defense. Really? Give me a break. That doesn’t happen in a football game. The offense and special teams have played like crap at times no doubt. Bad turnovers absolutely. But to say the refs aren’t part of it is BS.

Blame the Refs all you like, I believe in liberty.

We are not 1-3 due to penalties, and I never said the Refs were not bad..

Top 25% of the NFL in Penalties We are the only losing team because we are bad, we have no discipline.
Denver (2-2) 37
New Orleans (1-3) 34
Seattle (2-2) 32
NYGiants (3-1) 32
Arrizona (2-2) 30
Tennessee (2-2) 29
Dallas (3-1) 27
Cleveland (2-2) 26
Philadelphia (4-0) 26

Are we a league worst -7 in turnover ratio because of the refs? Please answer specifically because we have played 4 games and have 11 turnovers. Just so happens we are the only team with double digit turnovers..

BTW The Vikings are tied for the second lowest penalties in the league with 16 Total. We had ZERO penalties on Defense against Carolina last week. No one claimed BS. The Saints did not have a single offensive holding penalty against Atlanta or Tampa Bay. No one claimed BS. You are correct that holding goes on every play but we have been the beneficiary of no calls and still lost.

Careful with the 'we are losing because of the Refs'... All four of these entire officiating crews are in on the conspiracy?
Alex Kemp
Shawn Hachuli
Carl Cheffers
Clete Blakeman

Re: Observations from the Saints' close loss to the Vikings

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 959991)

I have conceded multiple times in this and other threads that bad play in many forms from the team is PART of the problem. Sure -7 TO is part of the problem

I’m saying refs are ALSO part of the problem. Are you trying to say bad ref calls DON’T impact the game ? Can’t understand the attitude of letting them off the hook when they screw up with the “oh well, it’s not why we lost” attitude. In the aggregate it IS part of why we lost.