Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad

BakoSaint · 10-04-2022, 07:13 PM

If Murray chose the Broncos over us, the discussion of why we didn't want him is moot, but the discussion of why he didn't want us is not moot. We need to appeal to good free agents not be the last resort. If a player who is already on our practice squad and knows our system and knows we were the only team to give him a chance this year does not want to play for us that says something. Perhaps Dennis Allen is not an inspiring leader, and what players hear about Hackett in the national media is more positive. Perhaps Loomis' mismanagement of our salary cap makes us an unappealing destination as we are liable to cut or fail to retain a player to save pennies even if they do well. Perhaps our failure to reward performers and loyalty to justifying costly underperformers makes us unappealing to highly motivated players who feel they never got their due. Murray didn't want to sit behind Ingram. CGJ didn't want to make less money than Peat and Hill. Thats understandable. Time to stop coddling the Ingrams, Hills, and Peats. Coddle the CDJs, coddle the Murrays, coddle the healthy performers.

TheOak · 10-05-2022, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

If Murray chose the Broncos over us, the discussion of why we didn't want him is moot, but the discussion of why he didn't want us is not moot. We need to appeal to good free agents not be the last resort. If a player who is already on our practice squad and knows our system and knows we were the only team to give him a chance this year does not want to play for us that says something. Perhaps Dennis Allen is not an inspiring leader, and what players hear about Hackett in the national media is more positive. Perhaps Loomis' mismanagement of our salary cap makes us an unappealing destination as we are liable to cut or fail to retain a player to save pennies even if they do well. Perhaps our failure to reward performers and loyalty to justifying costly underperformers makes us unappealing to highly motivated players who feel they never got their due. Murray didn't want to sit behind Ingram. CGJ didn't want to make less money than Peat and Hill. Thats understandable. Time to stop coddling the Ingrams, Hills, and Peats. Coddle the CDJs, coddle the Murrays, coddle the healthy performers.

He didn't get a chance because, rightfully so, no one put him ahead of Kamara, Ingram, Washington, or Jones and the team is limited to 53. He is going somewhere else it is because Kamara and Ingram are not going away and we can still only have 53 and Murray is not our future.

Players do not care about salary cap and as a matter of fact in the Loomis can kicking system they get more guaranteed money up front in restructures. This is about a team, a state, that doesn't know when to let go. It is my humble opinion that as of today, we have held on to Mark Ingram longer than we should have... Twice.

BakoSaint · 10-05-2022, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

He didn't get a chance because, rightfully so, no one put him ahead of Kamara, Ingram, Washington, or Jones and the team is limited to 53. He is going somewhere else it is because Kamara and Ingram are not going away and we can still only have 53 and Murray is not our future.

Players do not care about salary cap and as a matter of fact in the Loomis can kicking system they get more guaranteed money up front in restructures. This is about a team, a state, that doesn't know when to let go. It is my humble opinion that as of today, we have held on to Mark Ingram longer than we should have... Twice.

I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs.

AsylumGuido · 10-05-2022, 12:54 PM

Rugby Saint II · 10-05-2022, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...09078767443970

This is what I keep thinking too.

AsylumGuido · 10-12-2022, 10:26 AM

Time to restock the practice squad and hopefully not need them.

saintsfan1976 · 10-12-2022, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs.

For the same reason 32 other teams didn't put him on their rosters.

AsylumGuido · 10-12-2022, 03:22 PM

The aforementioned replacement for Tony Jones Jr. on the practice squad is Jordan Howard. I hope we don't ever need to use him and if we do I hope he's great.

AsylumGuido · 10-12-2022, 04:12 PM

TheOak · 10-13-2022, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs.

Because Murray hasn't been able to stay healthy and play more than 8 games in a season for the last 4 seasons?

Because it wasn't Mickey Loomis but rather Michael Parenton, Saints Director of Pro Personnel and 31 other teams that didn't want Murray on their 53 this season for a reason?

Because Murray had a chance to play a bigger role and make more money for another organization and to deny him that opportunity only to make him play 3rd fiddle when Ingram needed a breather is selfish and poor leadership.

You want a reason to go after Loomis so badly that you are fabricating them.

Here, stop denying them your wisdom.
https://www.neworleanssaints.com/team/careers/

10-04-2022, 07:13 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,439	Re: Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad If Murray chose the Broncos over us, the discussion of why we didn't want him is moot, but the discussion of why he didn't want us is not moot. We need to appeal to good free agents not be the last resort. If a player who is already on our practice squad and knows our system and knows we were the only team to give him a chance this year does not want to play for us that says something. Perhaps Dennis Allen is not an inspiring leader, and what players hear about Hackett in the national media is more positive. Perhaps Loomis' mismanagement of our salary cap makes us an unappealing destination as we are liable to cut or fail to retain a player to save pennies even if they do well. Perhaps our failure to reward performers and loyalty to justifying costly underperformers makes us unappealing to highly motivated players who feel they never got their due. Murray didn't want to sit behind Ingram. CGJ didn't want to make less money than Peat and Hill. Thats understandable. Time to stop coddling the Ingrams, Hills, and Peats. Coddle the CDJs, coddle the Murrays, coddle the healthy performers.
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10-05-2022, 06:12 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad Originally Posted by BakoSaint If Murray chose the Broncos over us, the discussion of why we didn't want him is moot, but the discussion of why he didn't want us is not moot. We need to appeal to good free agents not be the last resort. If a player who is already on our practice squad and knows our system and knows we were the only team to give him a chance this year does not want to play for us that says something. Perhaps Dennis Allen is not an inspiring leader, and what players hear about Hackett in the national media is more positive. Perhaps Loomis' mismanagement of our salary cap makes us an unappealing destination as we are liable to cut or fail to retain a player to save pennies even if they do well. Perhaps our failure to reward performers and loyalty to justifying costly underperformers makes us unappealing to highly motivated players who feel they never got their due. Murray didn't want to sit behind Ingram. CGJ didn't want to make less money than Peat and Hill. Thats understandable. Time to stop coddling the Ingrams, Hills, and Peats. Coddle the CDJs, coddle the Murrays, coddle the healthy performers. He didn't get a chance because, rightfully so, no one put him ahead of Kamara, Ingram, Washington, or Jones and the team is limited to 53. He is going somewhere else it is because Kamara and Ingram are not going away and we can still only have 53 and Murray is not our future. Players do not care about salary cap and as a matter of fact in the Loomis can kicking system they get more guaranteed money up front in restructures. This is about a team, a state, that doesn't know when to let go. It is my humble opinion that as of today, we have held on to Mark Ingram longer than we should have... Twice. saintsfan1976, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.
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10-05-2022, 11:41 AM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,439	Re: Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad Originally Posted by TheOak He didn't get a chance because, rightfully so, no one put him ahead of Kamara, Ingram, Washington, or Jones and the team is limited to 53. He is going somewhere else it is because Kamara and Ingram are not going away and we can still only have 53 and Murray is not our future. Players do not care about salary cap and as a matter of fact in the Loomis can kicking system they get more guaranteed money up front in restructures. This is about a team, a state, that doesn't know when to let go. It is my humble opinion that as of today, we have held on to Mark Ingram longer than we should have... Twice. I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs.
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10-12-2022, 10:58 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,082 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad Originally Posted by BakoSaint I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs. For the same reason 32 other teams didn't put him on their rosters. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad The aforementioned replacement for Tony Jones Jr. on the practice squad is Jordan Howard. I hope we don't ever need to use him and if we do I hope he's great. Twitter

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10-13-2022, 07:19 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Broncos sign Murray off the practice squad Originally Posted by BakoSaint I don't know why it is in any way rightfully so that nobody put him ahead of Ingram, Washington, or Jones. Ingram may not be going away with respect to the field, or with respect to the line of scrimmage, but he is often going away with respect to loose footballs. Because Murray hasn't been able to stay healthy and play more than 8 games in a season for the last 4 seasons? Because it wasn't Mickey Loomis but rather Michael Parenton, Saints Director of Pro Personnel and 31 other teams that didn't want Murray on their 53 this season for a reason? Because Murray had a chance to play a bigger role and make more money for another organization and to deny him that opportunity only to make him play 3rd fiddle when Ingram needed a breather is selfish and poor leadership. You want a reason to go after Loomis so badly that you are fabricating them. Here, stop denying them your wisdom. https://www.neworleanssaints.com/team/careers/ Crusader and SmashMouth like this.
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