AsylumGuido

Nice question and answer that raises discussion points.

SmashMouth

But Jameis has to be able to read defense to actually be successful with those quick and easier throws. Has he spent enough tutelage to be able to do so? One would have to say yes by now.

We may be trading the rights for SP in the off season for multiple number ones so that we can get to this vaunted QB class of 2023.

subguy

I hope we make a deal for a 2023 QB.

Jameis isn't the leader and keeping cool isn't in his vocabulary. Yes, he can throw the ball downfield, but. Realistically, aside from painting AG's narrative, what does he bring to the table? Mobility, maybe. No one has ever said he doesn't have athletic ability, or doesn't give effort. At the end of the day, it all comes down to results.

Dalton is the best solution at the moment. If for one reason and one reason only, he knows how to check down. It is necessary with a back like Kamara.

I truly wish we could see Dalton with a receiving corps, other than 4th, 5th and 6th stringers.

Don't want em to get your goat don't show em where it's hid.

K Major

The Saints will be drafting a QB in 2023.

Something that the organization should have looked at more closely while Brees was still under center.

dizzle88

Just because Jameis can throw the ball down the field, doesnt mean he should. That seems to be a big issue, that and not being able to read defenses or throw accurate intermediate passes.

As Major said, this should have been addressed when Brees was under center. We need to draft a QB and not go into the following seasons expecting a huge improvement with the same cast of underachievers.

SmashMouth

They actually did try to address it, albeit unsuccessfully. Is that a knock on SP and Loomis or a matter of circumstance and fate?

Rugby Saint II

Dalton looks like a finished product. Unfortunately, Winston still looks like a deer in the head lights.

Remember that Lance's mom joined BNG after reading comments about what a good man his mom raised on here. She was fun.

BakoSaint

I agree that Jameis has more upside than Dalton but the odds have become too stacked against realizing that upside if it was ever possible. He has bad habits. He isn't reading the field well. We don't have Sean Payton to develop him anymore, we have Hue Jackson at head coach, except without the offensive background. Even if we had Sean Payton, Payton was better working with a QB who was already better. And to make it all harder we have injury prone receivers and no good TE to dump the ball off to because we spent all our TE money on a glass swiss army knife who gets everyone super excited against bad defenses in a game or two here or there between injuries and mediocre play against better defenses. So in Winston we have a QB with lots of upside who is injured and needs coaching, and we don't have the oline to protect him or the coaching to fix him, if either of those things are possible.

In our circumstances Dalton is better than Winston, but Dalton has a low ceiling, we are not getting a ring with Dalton, we are just keeping the bags off our heads and keeping Philly out of the top 5 picks maybe. If Winston gets fully healthy we can give him a shot if Dalton is not winning, which he probably won't be, but I don't think the shot is likely to go anywhere. Probably Winston is the next Aaron Brooks. If Aaron Brooks had not played under Jim Haslett, maybe Brooks would have been great. If Winston was initially drafted by Sean Payton and developed in a stable system with good protection, maybe Winston would have been great. Maybe Winston will sign as a backup with the Chiefs and Maholmes will go down one year with an injury and Andy Reid will fix Winston, unlikely, but possible. I don't think we are fixing Winston.

Yes, we would all prefer Brees over Dalton and Winston. But at the same time, we would all prefer Sean Payton over Dennis Allen and Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks over Andrus Peat and Carlos Ruiz. Peat and Ruiz were first round picks. Evans and Nicks were 4th and 5th round picks. If we want to win, its not just getting a QB and getting a head coach, although we need both. Its getting back to finding talent like that in the middle rounds instead of scrapping our middle round picks to trade up in the first to draft scrubs who we will be committed to start for life whether they succeed or fail. We need to stop outsmarting ourselves in the middle rounds, stop trading the picks, stop drafting weird projects, and get younger and better. Then when we can protect a QB, we can find another one.

QBREES9

He's not a leader. Dalton and Hill at QB. Need to draft one as well.

4everSaint

We can easily snag my boy Will Rogers at Miss. State in round 2.

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