Everything Must Go?

rezburna · 10-23-2022, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by papz

While the idea of Chubb is enticing, we can’t afford it financially or draft capital wise. We’re in a pickle. First and foremost, we need direction of where we’re headed as a franchise.

I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over.

TB 3-4
ATL 3-4
CAR 2-5
NO 2-5

We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it.

Boston Saint · 10-23-2022, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over.

TB 3-4
ATL 3-4
CAR 2-5
NO 2-5

We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it.

I said before the Az game we were one game out of first and supposed to get healthier. If 7-9 seahawks made it to the playoffs and beat us in the playoffs then we could do the same.

AsylumGuido · 10-23-2022, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over.

TB 3-4
ATL 3-4
CAR 2-5
NO 2-5

We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I said before the Az game we were one game out of first and supposed to get healthier. If 7-9 seahawks made it to the playoffs and beat us in the playoffs then we could do the same.

I had dropped in earlier as soon as the Bucs stunk it up again to say the same things.

BakoSaint · 10-23-2022, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I said before the Az game we were one game out of first and supposed to get healthier. If 7-9 seahawks made it to the playoffs and beat us in the playoffs then we could do the same.

But the 2010 Seahawks beating us in the playoffs didn't matter. They lost in the next round. What mattered is that they didn't make any blockbuster trades or signings where they gave up a lot of draft picks or mortgaged their salary cap for years to come. Then they went on to have great drafts in 2011 and 2012 and the salary cap space to keep their young core together and they won a Superbowl as a young primarily home grown team. All the Seahawks show is that any team can win a weak division but that is unlikely to result in a ring, what results in a ring is focusing more on the future when you are in a situation like that, as the Seahawks did, which got them their ring down the road, instead of trading the draft picks that became Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson to win it all that year as 7-9 division champs.

AsylumGuido · 10-23-2022, 05:28 PM

Does Bako get paid by the letter or the word?

Boston Saint · 10-23-2022, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

But the 2010 Seahawks beating us in the playoffs didn't matter. They lost in the next round. What mattered is that they didn't make any blockbuster trades or signings where they gave up a lot of draft picks or mortgaged their salary cap for years to come. Then they went on to have great drafts in 2011 and 2012 and the salary cap space to keep their young core together and they won a Superbowl as a young primarily home grown team. All the Seahawks show is that any team can win a weak division but that is unlikely to result in a ring, what results in a ring is focusing more on the future when you are in a situation like that, as the Seahawks did, which got them their ring down the road, instead of trading the draft picks that became Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson to win it all that year as 7-9 division champs.

I was at that game bako. It mattered a HELL of a lot to the 50 plus thousand fans screaming in the stadium.

papz · 10-23-2022, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over.

TB 3-4
ATL 3-4
CAR 2-5
NO 2-5

We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it.

I get it. At the same time, if we get there and get knocked out like we always do, we’re in worse shape than we started. I don’t think it’s as cut and dry. There’s talent there we just need to play better.

AsylumGuido · 10-23-2022, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I get it. At the same time, if we get there and get knocked out like we always do, we’re in worse shape than we started. I don’t think it’s as cut and dry. There’s talent there we just need to play better.

Thirteen teams now get knocked out every year after getting there. But you don't have a chance of winning it all if you don't get there. But you are correct that there is talent there already.

BakoSaint · 10-23-2022, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Thirteen teams now get knocked out every year after getting there. But you don't have a chance of winning it all if you don't get there. But you are correct that there is talent there already.

Winning it all without a franchise QB is very very hard. We can't get a franchise QB if we don't have draft picks and/or salary cap space. Winning the draft and winning free agency are very hard without picks or money. We have the talent to make the playoffs. Lots of teams make the playoffs without a franchise QB. But we need to focus on getting the QB first if we want the trip to be a happy one.

papz · 10-23-2022, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Thirteen teams now get knocked out every year after getting there. But you don't have a chance of winning it all if you don't get there. But you are correct that there is talent there already.

Forever the optimist.

I am, however, a much more pragmatic thinker.

You can’t win the powerball if you don’t buy a ticket. I’m more in line with we bought enough tickets already. Now we’re just blowing wads of money we’re not getting back.

10-23-2022, 02:57 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,094	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by papz While the idea of Chubb is enticing, we can’t afford it financially or draft capital wise. We’re in a pickle. First and foremost, we need direction of where we’re headed as a franchise. I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over. TB 3-4 ATL 3-4 CAR 2-5 NO 2-5 We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it. neugey, AsylumGuido and Boston Saint like this.

10-23-2022, 03:14 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by rezburna I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over. TB 3-4 ATL 3-4 CAR 2-5 NO 2-5 We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it. I said before the Az game we were one game out of first and supposed to get healthier. If 7-9 seahawks made it to the playoffs and beat us in the playoffs then we could do the same. AsylumGuido likes this.

10-23-2022, 04:26 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by rezburna I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over. TB 3-4 ATL 3-4 CAR 2-5 NO 2-5 We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it. Originally Posted by Boston Saint I said before the Az game we were one game out of first and supposed to get healthier. If 7-9 seahawks made it to the playoffs and beat us in the playoffs then we could do the same. I had dropped in earlier as soon as the Bucs stunk it up again to say the same things.

10-23-2022, 05:18 PM	#4
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,390	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by Boston Saint I said before the Az game we were one game out of first and supposed to get healthier. If 7-9 seahawks made it to the playoffs and beat us in the playoffs then we could do the same. But the 2010 Seahawks beating us in the playoffs didn't matter. They lost in the next round. What mattered is that they didn't make any blockbuster trades or signings where they gave up a lot of draft picks or mortgaged their salary cap for years to come. Then they went on to have great drafts in 2011 and 2012 and the salary cap space to keep their young core together and they won a Superbowl as a young primarily home grown team. All the Seahawks show is that any team can win a weak division but that is unlikely to result in a ring, what results in a ring is focusing more on the future when you are in a situation like that, as the Seahawks did, which got them their ring down the road, instead of trading the draft picks that became Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson to win it all that year as 7-9 division champs.
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10-23-2022, 05:28 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Everything Must Go? Does Bako get paid by the letter or the word?

10-23-2022, 05:42 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by BakoSaint But the 2010 Seahawks beating us in the playoffs didn't matter. They lost in the next round. What mattered is that they didn't make any blockbuster trades or signings where they gave up a lot of draft picks or mortgaged their salary cap for years to come. Then they went on to have great drafts in 2011 and 2012 and the salary cap space to keep their young core together and they won a Superbowl as a young primarily home grown team. All the Seahawks show is that any team can win a weak division but that is unlikely to result in a ring, what results in a ring is focusing more on the future when you are in a situation like that, as the Seahawks did, which got them their ring down the road, instead of trading the draft picks that became Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson to win it all that year as 7-9 division champs. I was at that game bako. It mattered a HELL of a lot to the 50 plus thousand fans screaming in the stadium. AsylumGuido likes this.

10-23-2022, 05:02 PM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by rezburna I think we have to recognize this season isn’t over. TB 3-4 ATL 3-4 CAR 2-5 NO 2-5 We just gotta get healthy and go on a run. We can win this division. Nobody stands out. We're likely still the most talented. I think we need to consider making a move to improve this roster because it’s loaded and we can win with it. I get it. At the same time, if we get there and get knocked out like we always do, we’re in worse shape than we started. I don’t think it’s as cut and dry. There’s talent there we just need to play better. leilung likes this.

10-23-2022, 05:07 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by papz I get it. At the same time, if we get there and get knocked out like we always do, we’re in worse shape than we started. I don’t think it’s as cut and dry. There’s talent there we just need to play better. Thirteen teams now get knocked out every year after getting there. But you don't have a chance of winning it all if you don't get there. But you are correct that there is talent there already.

10-23-2022, 05:35 PM	#9
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,390	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Thirteen teams now get knocked out every year after getting there. But you don't have a chance of winning it all if you don't get there. But you are correct that there is talent there already. Winning it all without a franchise QB is very very hard. We can't get a franchise QB if we don't have draft picks and/or salary cap space. Winning the draft and winning free agency are very hard without picks or money. We have the talent to make the playoffs. Lots of teams make the playoffs without a franchise QB. But we need to focus on getting the QB first if we want the trip to be a happy one.
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10-23-2022, 06:28 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Everything Must Go? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Thirteen teams now get knocked out every year after getting there. But you don't have a chance of winning it all if you don't get there. But you are correct that there is talent there already. Forever the optimist. I am, however, a much more pragmatic thinker. You can’t win the powerball if you don’t buy a ticket. I’m more in line with we bought enough tickets already. Now we’re just blowing wads of money we’re not getting back. AsylumGuido likes this.