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We have some players who have substantial trade value and the trade deadline is coming up soon. I've read several different articles about whether it's a good idea to move on from our core group.

On one hand, we could hold onto key players and continue with the win now mentality while pushing the cap down the road. The team could also trade for another impact veteran to help with a late season push if that's the direction they want to go. It's worked before.

On the other hand, the front office might realize it's too late/too little and begin trading key pieces now for for a rebuild next year. That might be tough to pull off with most players having been through numerous contract extensions and being tied to the team. I'm not advocating a fire sale by any means but it's worth discussing.

Looking at the cap hits for our top players it's hard to see much interest from other teams. We unloaded Cee Dee for next to nothing and I worry about the decisions by the front office this offseason. I sure hope we don't trade with Philly again. They got a heck of a deal.

Who could/would you trade?

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I wouldn't trade anyone. Now I wouldn't mind picking someone up that can fill a need to make a run.

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The Ceedy trade was dumb, considering he was one of our best players and we got basically nothing for him.
If we are trying to gain back draft capital, I'd start with the Davenport.
We are never getting 2 firsts back for him, but he doesn't show up that much anyway, so if we could get a 3rd round pick, or a little higher I'd be happy.

We have a pretty old roster so I don't think there is a ton of value in our players. I don't want to lose AK, he makes the offense go. Likewise, don't want to lose Cam Jordan, he's about 10 years older than Davenport, and still looks more active.

If we could get a first rounder for Thomas, I'd take it. I just don't know which team would do that now, considering he's always injured.

Guys like Mathieu and Evans, if you could get something for them, great, if not I think they should be sent on their way.
You can see it in Mathieu's play, he doesn't care anymore.

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I’ve listed who I would trade on another recent thread. Guido and gang obviously dont want to trade anyone. They are probably looking forward to adding Odell Beckham Jr now and Rashaad Penny in the offseason and locking both up with long term fully guaranteed backloaded deals into their late 30’s on the basis that all injuries are chance and all players with chronic injury histories are actually more valuable because of their brave struggle with adversity that will only make them better, and hugs and quilts and rainbows and ponies.

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How about Brian Flores?

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Great. Got anybody in mind? A DT/RB maybe.

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Penny is on IR. He's one of 11 I had, or picked up, on my legacy fantasy team this season that is now on that list.

Beyond that, you are so full of crap it is becoming amusing. :D

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Not much available at RB, nor do I see the need. Kamara, Ingram, and company (including Taysom) can handle that moving forward. I can see DT, however. Onyemata has disappeared for some reason. Maybe some vet that can give some guard depth. Throckmorton is killing us with his presnap crap. Hopefully Penning will be back soon to fill the LT role. Ruiz, believe it or not, is perhaps our most consistent performing OL right now.

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I would have no problem with Flores. Not mid season, however.

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I would look to add an interior run defender. Saints have given up almost 900 yards rushing already. Which is almost dead last.

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David Onyemata just doesn't look the same since his PED suspension. It's a shame. We really need a push up the middle.

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We restructured Harty 's contract and I was thinking we were going to bring somebody else in.

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The whole D doesn't look the same as last year... WTF!

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They let far too many impact players walk in the defensive backfield and it shows.

When Mathieu's version of a ball hawk is just standing nowhere near a receiver and watching passes fly all over the field and then being too afraid to tackle, no wonder the D line doesn't have enough time to generate pressure.

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https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/editor...-likely-traded
The Saints have a an opportunity to win the impotent NFL South so I think that they should be looking for help rather than getting rid of key players for future draft picks that may or may not be good players in the NFL.

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Agree completely, ice.

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I agree with a bit of Viagra the Saints could overcome the impotent division. Just wouldn’t give up anything besides a 4th. But one thing is for sure…

Whatever Loomis does bako will love it ! 😝

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What would y'all think of picking up Hunt ... IF he wants to come here, that is.

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I like the idea of Cam Akers and Nick Boyle. Bring in another RB and a TE who can block.

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I can get behind trading for Akers and/or Toney. Scale the compensation towards their productivity. Both are in the doghouse and so the initial investment shouldn't be bad.

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We do need to move away from Ingram, he is just ineffective when you need him.

Latavius Murray came in for 1 game and immediately looked better than Ingram has all year.

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Akers is done. Waste of a roster space.

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Kareem Hunt if he gets cut?

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Eagles trade for Robert Quinn. Meanwhile we quiet af.

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Ceedy trade made absolutely no sense. Even with the attitude we could have gotten a second and a player. It’s like they are purposely making moves that will set the team back. Moving next years first was dumb considering our Qb situation. They know as well as anyone that Winston and Hill aren’t long term solutions. It’s like they don’t have a plan.

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Robert Quinn has done absolutely nothing this year so far. I certainly wouldn't want us to throw 4th round pick on him. Not sure why this would frazzle anyone.

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I wanna say he’s 11th in QB pressures. Cam Jordan is like 58th. We need to pressure the opposing QB’s. Cam might be more effective being slid inside with Quinn/Davenport on the outside. Their quicker and faster. But most importantly, the Eagles continue to make moves to try and better their team. We do nothing.

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With 8 total tackles and 1 sack. He's also 32 years old who will make 14 million next season and 13 the year after.

Woof

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It’s not the player I’m worried about per say. It’s the lack of effort to try and address an area of weakness. Quinn isn’t the only DE for sale. Chubb is out there. Anybody who can speed up the processing of a QB and cause some mistakes because what we have isn’t working. I wanna see them make a trade to address any weakness. Left side of the OL. RB depth. TE. Hell, Huntley from the Ravens at QB. Anything.

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We have a week left before the deadline. I'm sure we'll make a move or two but it has to make sense. Not something that will hog tie us for the foreseeable future.

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Trading Chauncey for peanuts didn’t make the most sense but they definitely rushed into that. We could have held him until the deadline.

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No telling what went on behind the scenes with Ceedy. This is what is known. There is likely more never reported.

The New Orleans Saints trading defensive back C.J. Gardner Johnson to the Philadelphia Eagles shocked many. But according to one report, it was bound to happen.

On Aug. 30, the day of the NFL’s roster cutdown deadline, the New Orleans Saints made a rather shocking decision. They decided to trade safety C.J. Gardner-Johnson and a 2025 seventh-round pick to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for a 2023 fifth-round pick and a 2024 sixth-round pick. The move made Philadelphia’s active offseason that much better. But why would the Saints trade away their talented defensive back?

According to New Orleans Football’s Nick Underhill (subscription required), the Saints let it be known that they were not going to re-sign Gardner-Johnson “on his terms.” Not only that, but Underhill reports that Gardner-Johnson “stopped taking coaching.”

Saints: Reported reasons for C.J. Gardner-Johnson trade to Eagles

Gardner-Johnson, a 2019 fourth-round pick out of Florida, was entering the final year of his rookie contract, and set to hit free agency at the end of the 2022 campaign. Gardner-Johnson opted to hold in during training camp during negotiations.

NOLA.com’s Jeff Duncan noted in an article following the trade (subscription required) that during one practice, Gardner-Johnson was injured following a collision, and yelled at the team’s trainers “see, this is what you all wanted.” The quote, as Duncan notes, was “presumably being about his uncertain contract status.”

Head coach Dennis Allen spoke to the media about the trade, saying that the decision was not easy, but that he was confident in their defensive backfield, which he called “the deeper positions” that they had.

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I put that on bad coaching and lack of leadership as well. Allen can’t keep his team under control and he overestimated the depth of the position group. Hindsight is 20/20, but I don’t think any of us where happy about that move regardless of the reports of his attitude.

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All of those people that just bought their #22 jerseys certainly weren't happy.

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Two wrongs don’t make a right either.

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The whole friggin team...and its coaches:dunce:

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I don’t disagree rez. It’s so obvious that I’m wondering if something happened we don’t know about. Like Maybe Ceedy was mad about not getting extended for big dollars and he said “Look, I don’t want to be here. Trade me or I am gonna make your team miserable”?

He’s always had the label of the kind of player that you hate on other people’s team but you love on your team. Well you don’t get that sort of rep without also rubbing a few people on your team wrong. I guess I’m saying that maybe he threatened to make things uncomfortable for everybody. Total speculation of course.

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Yup. That's exactly what I was saying earlier. I have a feeling there's more to it that isn't public knowledge.

Let's not forget that he was the one that egged Thomas on until he snapped in practice. Yes, he's got an edge we liked, but sometimes those edges slice both ways.