Week Eight QB Debate

AsylumGuido · 10-24-2022, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Will it really matter? A healthy Winston is probably a better option, but is there a big enough difference? whose to say. Probably a better topic to discuss would be how many games will we have our starting WR core (and no Guido the answer isn't all of them) on the field for the remainder of the season? greater or less than 4?

Probably about as long as any other team in the league. Don't know if you've checked around recently, but virtually every team is missing at least one starting WR. Metcalf and Mike Williams both went down yesterday.

dizzle88 · 10-24-2022, 04:28 PM

I still think Dalton.

Neither are a great option, but the offense looks a little more controlled with Dalton at QB.

The Defense has been getting shredded so whoever is at QB best be ready to sling the ball, and Dalton's last game was pretty bad, but Winston cannot read defenses to save his life.

bobdog86 · 10-24-2022, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Probably about as long as any other team in the league. Don't know if you've checked around recently, but virtually every team is missing at least one starting WR. Metcalf and Mike Williams both went down yesterday.

Metcalf who? Never heard of him…just kidding. Don’t recall me saying anything about 1 receiver…..I believe I said, starting receiver core, so for instance not sure if you know who Tyler Lockett is, he plays with Metcalf, imagine that team without those two and whomever else they would put on the field, say Eskridge or Brown…..point is that would be a tough option for even Geno the savior as some people are calling him here where I live.

neugey · 10-24-2022, 07:27 PM

Eeeenie meeeenie mineeey moe ...

BakoSaint · 10-24-2022, 09:06 PM

I would start Dalton. I think interceptions that bounce off a receivers hands should be credited to the receiver not the QB so I view Dalton as having 4TD and 2 INT against a bad defense, which is decent. Dalton isn't great but looks less lost than Winston. If Dalton struggles further or is injured, Winston will get another shot in time, but I don't buy either as a long term solution. I would advocate trading either or both if any offers came in.

I wish we had a Zappe, Ehlinger, Rush, etc to give a shot and hopefully we draft our own next year. We could have drafted Willis, Corral, and Zappe but we traded all the picks that could have let us select all three players and our first round next year and our 2nd rounder in 2024 to get Olave basically. Had we not got Olave, we could have drafted George Pickens instead of Alontae Taylor in the second and not gave away CGJ. You miss all the draft picks you give don't have anymore because you trade several for one.

Sinner · 10-24-2022, 10:45 PM

Taysom Hill.

subguy · 10-25-2022, 04:59 AM

Dalton...Winston healthy will deliver the same result in the passing game, per usual. A good game here and there!

Every QB has his bad game and 3 int's (2 of which were on him) would be his bad game. The guy has been out there as a backup with 3-5 string as well as practice squaders.

As AG points out ad nauseum, I guess to try to prove his narrative, each team has injuries. Thanks Capt. Obvious! Anyway, I only care about the Saints injuries. Thomas needs to get back on the field, prima donna, got the payday. Need a Landry update.

If Winston comes back, we might as well trade AK, because Winston's version of a check down is 65 yards downfield.

I do think we need to figure out how to get Shaheed more involved and put him to the test.

halloween 65 · 10-25-2022, 06:19 AM

After watching MNF last night Mack might be available next season. BB benched his A$$

mjf150 · 10-25-2022, 07:01 AM

C) Taysom Hill

The team responds better when he’s out there. He’s the X-factor.

rezburna · 10-25-2022, 08:31 AM

There is no future in Andy Dalton. That’s an undeniable fact. He’s 34 years old. His career is basically over. You give Winston his last opportunity to save his career here in New Orleans. If he can’t do that I have no problem watching Hill.

10-24-2022, 03:37 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: Week Eight QB Debate Originally Posted by bobdog86 Will it really matter? A healthy Winston is probably a better option, but is there a big enough difference? whose to say. Probably a better topic to discuss would be how many games will we have our starting WR core (and no Guido the answer isn't all of them) on the field for the remainder of the season? greater or less than 4? Probably about as long as any other team in the league. Don't know if you've checked around recently, but virtually every team is missing at least one starting WR. Metcalf and Mike Williams both went down yesterday.

10-24-2022, 04:28 PM	#12
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Week Eight QB Debate I still think Dalton. Neither are a great option, but the offense looks a little more controlled with Dalton at QB. The Defense has been getting shredded so whoever is at QB best be ready to sling the ball, and Dalton's last game was pretty bad, but Winston cannot read defenses to save his life. jnormand and Sinner like this.

10-24-2022, 06:53 PM	#13
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,329	Re: Week Eight QB Debate Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Probably about as long as any other team in the league. Don't know if you've checked around recently, but virtually every team is missing at least one starting WR. Metcalf and Mike Williams both went down yesterday. Metcalf who? Never heard of him…just kidding. Don’t recall me saying anything about 1 receiver…..I believe I said, starting receiver core, so for instance not sure if you know who Tyler Lockett is, he plays with Metcalf, imagine that team without those two and whomever else they would put on the field, say Eskridge or Brown…..point is that would be a tough option for even Geno the savior as some people are calling him here where I live.

10-24-2022, 07:27 PM	#14
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,591 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Week Eight QB Debate Eeeenie meeeenie mineeey moe ... SmashMouth and K Major like this.

10-24-2022, 09:06 PM	#15
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,749	Re: Week Eight QB Debate I would start Dalton. I think interceptions that bounce off a receivers hands should be credited to the receiver not the QB so I view Dalton as having 4TD and 2 INT against a bad defense, which is decent. Dalton isn't great but looks less lost than Winston. If Dalton struggles further or is injured, Winston will get another shot in time, but I don't buy either as a long term solution. I would advocate trading either or both if any offers came in. I wish we had a Zappe, Ehlinger, Rush, etc to give a shot and hopefully we draft our own next year. We could have drafted Willis, Corral, and Zappe but we traded all the picks that could have let us select all three players and our first round next year and our 2nd rounder in 2024 to get Olave basically. Had we not got Olave, we could have drafted George Pickens instead of Alontae Taylor in the second and not gave away CGJ. You miss all the draft picks you give don't have anymore because you trade several for one.
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10-24-2022, 10:45 PM	#16
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10-25-2022, 04:59 AM	#17
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,057	Re: Week Eight QB Debate Dalton...Winston healthy will deliver the same result in the passing game, per usual. A good game here and there! Every QB has his bad game and 3 int's (2 of which were on him) would be his bad game. The guy has been out there as a backup with 3-5 string as well as practice squaders. As AG points out ad nauseum, I guess to try to prove his narrative, each team has injuries. Thanks Capt. Obvious! Anyway, I only care about the Saints injuries. Thomas needs to get back on the field, prima donna, got the payday. Need a Landry update. If Winston comes back, we might as well trade AK, because Winston's version of a check down is 65 yards downfield. I do think we need to figure out how to get Shaheed more involved and put him to the test.
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10-25-2022, 06:19 AM	#18
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Week Eight QB Debate After watching MNF last night Mack might be available next season. BB benched his A$$

10-25-2022, 07:01 AM	#19
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	Re: Week Eight QB Debate C) Taysom Hill The team responds better when he’s out there. He’s the X-factor. Sinner and Thirty3 like this.
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10-25-2022, 08:31 AM	#20
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,652	Re: Week Eight QB Debate There is no future in Andy Dalton. That’s an undeniable fact. He’s 34 years old. His career is basically over. You give Winston his last opportunity to save his career here in New Orleans. If he can’t do that I have no problem watching Hill. SmashMouth likes this.