Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders

Boston Saint · 10-30-2022, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

D overall had a very good game.

Pressure on Carr from the front 4.
He tried to force a crossing route to Renfrow that Werner read beautifully and tipped, which Mathieu then picked off.
Alontae Taylor had a very good game, matching up on Adams.

This plus the offense moved and controlled the ball very well. Kept the raiders O sitting on the bench.

K Major · 10-30-2022, 04:44 PM

Alvin Kamara.

Not to mention how his pass game production has improved with Andy Dalton under center.

cmike · 10-30-2022, 05:18 PM

Loved how Andy was able to step up in the pocket all game. O-Line played very well.

turbo_dog · 10-30-2022, 05:28 PM

The biggest difference I see with Dalton instead of Winston is the lack of confusion before the snap. The O line seems to know their assignments as well as the backfield. I don't know if it is a reflection of the QB or if these are improvements being made since the beginning of the season. So it may not be fair to compare Winston and Dalton on this point.

rezburna · 10-30-2022, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

Loved how Andy was able to step up in the pocket all game. O-Line played very well.

They might be finally gelling a little bit. They did a lot of things I’ve been beggin for them to do. In honestly think Payton came in and help give them a blueprint.

Boston Saint · 10-30-2022, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

They might be finally gelling a little bit. They did a lot of things I’ve been beggin for them to do. In honestly think Payton came in and help give them a blueprint.

You could by right rez. If so, then Godhell will likely find a way to dock the Saints a draft pick and fine them.

voodooido · 10-30-2022, 05:41 PM

Games like this spell goodbye for the crab thief.

papz · 10-30-2022, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Winston’s check down is a 50 yard 50/50 ball.

That made me chuckle.

First game, two quarters. That’s all I needed to see.

jnormand · 10-30-2022, 06:51 PM

JW had 1 good quarter in the games he started. Maybe 2. The offense stalled constantly and he can’t read the defense. That’s the difference. Yes he can make plays. Yes he has a cannon. But he is indecisive and panicked. He doesn’t go through his reads. He stares down his first read and chucks the ball. Lol.

He made me eat crow in the 4th quarter in the first game. Everything after was kind of crabby. Lol.

Dalton is fine. At least he scores points and takes what the defense gives him.

Of course this was a 2-5 Raiders team. So I’m not overly optimistic yet. But I still feel like he’s just a better QB.

SmashMouth · 10-30-2022, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

They might be finally gelling a little bit. They did a lot of things I’ve been beggin for them to do. In honestly think Payton came in and help give them a blueprint.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You could by right rez. If so, then Godhell will likely find a way to dock the Saints a draft pick and fine them.

SP has to earn his game check he's still receiving, neaux?

10-30-2022, 04:43 PM	#11
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by dizzle88 D overall had a very good game. Pressure on Carr from the front 4. He tried to force a crossing route to Renfrow that Werner read beautifully and tipped, which Mathieu then picked off. Alontae Taylor had a very good game, matching up on Adams. This plus the offense moved and controlled the ball very well. Kept the raiders O sitting on the bench. SmashMouth, dizzle88 and Pete like this.

10-30-2022, 04:44 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Alvin Kamara. Not to mention how his pass game production has improved with Andy Dalton under center. subguy, SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

10-30-2022, 05:18 PM	#13
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,426	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Loved how Andy was able to step up in the pocket all game. O-Line played very well.

10-30-2022, 05:28 PM	#14
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,576	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders The biggest difference I see with Dalton instead of Winston is the lack of confusion before the snap. The O line seems to know their assignments as well as the backfield. I don't know if it is a reflection of the QB or if these are improvements being made since the beginning of the season. So it may not be fair to compare Winston and Dalton on this point.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by cmike Loved how Andy was able to step up in the pocket all game. O-Line played very well. They might be finally gelling a little bit. They did a lot of things I’ve been beggin for them to do. In honestly think Payton came in and help give them a blueprint. SmashMouth likes this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by rezburna They might be finally gelling a little bit. They did a lot of things I’ve been beggin for them to do. In honestly think Payton came in and help give them a blueprint. You could by right rez. If so, then Godhell will likely find a way to dock the Saints a draft pick and fine them. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and rezburna like this.

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10-30-2022, 06:21 PM	#18
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by blackangold Winston’s check down is a 50 yard 50/50 ball. That made me chuckle. First game, two quarters. That’s all I needed to see. blackangold likes this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,647	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders JW had 1 good quarter in the games he started. Maybe 2. The offense stalled constantly and he can’t read the defense. That’s the difference. Yes he can make plays. Yes he has a cannon. But he is indecisive and panicked. He doesn’t go through his reads. He stares down his first read and chucks the ball. Lol. He made me eat crow in the 4th quarter in the first game. Everything after was kind of crabby. Lol. Dalton is fine. At least he scores points and takes what the defense gives him. Of course this was a 2-5 Raiders team. So I’m not overly optimistic yet. But I still feel like he’s just a better QB. iceshack149, dizzle88 and Sinner like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by rezburna They might be finally gelling a little bit. They did a lot of things I’ve been beggin for them to do. In honestly think Payton came in and help give them a blueprint. Originally Posted by Boston Saint You could by right rez. If so, then Godhell will likely find a way to dock the Saints a draft pick and fine them. SP has to earn his game check he's still receiving, neaux? Boston Saint likes this.