Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders

turbo_dog · 10-30-2022, 05:28 PM

The biggest difference I see with Dalton instead of Winston is the lack of confusion before the snap. The O line seems to know their assignments as well as the backfield. I don't know if it is a reflection of the QB or if these are improvements being made since the beginning of the season. So it may not be fair to compare Winston and Dalton on this point.

voodooido · 10-30-2022, 05:41 PM

Games like this spell goodbye for the crab thief.

jnormand · 10-30-2022, 06:51 PM

JW had 1 good quarter in the games he started. Maybe 2. The offense stalled constantly and he can’t read the defense. That’s the difference. Yes he can make plays. Yes he has a cannon. But he is indecisive and panicked. He doesn’t go through his reads. He stares down his first read and chucks the ball. Lol.

He made me eat crow in the 4th quarter in the first game. Everything after was kind of crabby. Lol.

Dalton is fine. At least he scores points and takes what the defense gives him.

Of course this was a 2-5 Raiders team. So I’m not overly optimistic yet. But I still feel like he’s just a better QB.

SmashMouth · 10-30-2022, 10:55 PM

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K Major · 10-31-2022, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...71083771772928

Deonte' Harty's replacement in 2023 ? …

Shahid continues to make plays, even with limited opportunities.

rezburna · 10-31-2022, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Deonte' Harty's replacement in 2023 ? …

Shahid continues to make plays, even with limited opportunities.

Harty is gone. Shaheed is superior. Bigger. Faster. Better receiver.

saintsfan1976 · 10-31-2022, 04:46 AM

This is the complete game I've been waiting for!

Andy Dalton finished with a 117 QBR.

Cruize · 10-31-2022, 05:54 AM

-Can't guard Olave.
-Dalton is playing as well as he ever did.
-Peat on the field is a difference maker.
- Taylor is the real deal. Talented with EFFORT.
-Rasheed continues to make plays.
-Davenport, Onyemata and Turner sighting.
-No Turnovers.
-Hill making plays.
-Refs didn't have their hands on the scale.
-Raiders are bad.

Boston Saint · 10-31-2022, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-Can't guard Olave.
-Dalton is playing as well as he ever did.
-Peat on the field is a difference maker.
- Taylor is the real deal. Talented with EFFORT.
-Rasheed continues to make plays.
-Davenport, Onyemata and Turner sighting.
-No Turnovers.
-Hill making plays.
-Refs didn't have their hands on the scale.
-Raiders are bad.

I’d like to point out an important thing(s) you mentions here Cruize. Three Players (Taylor, Olave, Rasheed) are rookies. We haven’t even seen Penning yet. Now, when you throw in Werner and Adebo that’s some pretty good young talent. Consider big money guys like Ram, Kamara and Latt are producing when on the field. If Thomas can ever get back on the field (queuing up map on that one) that’s a pretty good core moving into the future.
I know it’s the Raiders and it’s one game, but I guess I’m optimistic. Maybe not for this season exactly, but I certainly don’t think we are in the blow it up and rebuild stage (now que up bako). Keep in mind that if Lutz makes a FG here or if Kamara/Ingram had one fewer fumble there or if the damn refs call a fair game this team could be 5-3 or 6-2 easily.

I also realize the Ravens are a tough team to take on next week. Could be singing a different tune.

halloween 65 · 10-31-2022, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’d like to point out an important thing(s) you mentions here Cruize. Three Players (Taylor, Olave, Rasheed) are rookies. We haven’t even seen Penning yet. Now, when you throw in Werner and Adebo that’s some pretty good young talent. Consider big money guys like Ram, Kamara and Latt are producing when on the field. If Thomas can ever get back on the field (queuing up map on that one) that’s a pretty good core moving into the future.
I know it’s the Raiders and it’s one game, but I guess I’m optimistic. Maybe not for this season exactly, but I certainly don’t think we are in the blow it up and rebuild stage (now que up bako). Keep in mind that if Lutz makes a FG here or if Kamara/Ingram had one fewer fumble there or if the damn refs call a fair game this team could be 5-3 or 6-2 easily.

Not nitpicking your post but we're fine without Thomas, really have been. The guy has barely seen the field in 2 years and these young wr's are getting into rhythm ,as far as Ingram I would bring in another back right now and only use Ingram on tough yds. depending on the situation only.

10-30-2022, 05:28 PM	#1
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,649	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders The biggest difference I see with Dalton instead of Winston is the lack of confusion before the snap. The O line seems to know their assignments as well as the backfield. I don't know if it is a reflection of the QB or if these are improvements being made since the beginning of the season. So it may not be fair to compare Winston and Dalton on this point.

10-30-2022, 05:41 PM	#2
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10-30-2022, 06:51 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders JW had 1 good quarter in the games he started. Maybe 2. The offense stalled constantly and he can’t read the defense. That’s the difference. Yes he can make plays. Yes he has a cannon. But he is indecisive and panicked. He doesn’t go through his reads. He stares down his first read and chucks the ball. Lol. He made me eat crow in the 4th quarter in the first game. Everything after was kind of crabby. Lol. Dalton is fine. At least he scores points and takes what the defense gives him. Of course this was a 2-5 Raiders team. So I’m not overly optimistic yet. But I still feel like he’s just a better QB. iceshack149, dizzle88 and Sinner like this.

10-30-2022, 10:55 PM	#4
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10-31-2022, 09:18 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,799 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...71083771772928 Deonte' Harty's replacement in 2023 ? … Shahid continues to make plays, even with limited opportunities. SmashMouth and Boston Saint like this.

10-31-2022, 09:32 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,022	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by K Major Deonte' Harty's replacement in 2023 ? … Shahid continues to make plays, even with limited opportunities. Harty is gone. Shaheed is superior. Bigger. Faster. Better receiver. saintsfan1976, Rell&Gold and Boston Saint like this.

10-31-2022, 04:46 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders This is the complete game I've been waiting for! Andy Dalton finished with a 117 QBR. leilung likes this.

10-31-2022, 05:54 AM	#8
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,459	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders -Can't guard Olave. -Dalton is playing as well as he ever did. -Peat on the field is a difference maker. - Taylor is the real deal. Talented with EFFORT. -Rasheed continues to make plays. -Davenport, Onyemata and Turner sighting. -No Turnovers. -Hill making plays. -Refs didn't have their hands on the scale. -Raiders are bad. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, Rueben Mayes and 1 others like this.
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10-31-2022, 09:49 AM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by Cruize -Can't guard Olave. -Dalton is playing as well as he ever did. -Peat on the field is a difference maker. - Taylor is the real deal. Talented with EFFORT. -Rasheed continues to make plays. -Davenport, Onyemata and Turner sighting. -No Turnovers. -Hill making plays. -Refs didn't have their hands on the scale. -Raiders are bad. I’d like to point out an important thing(s) you mentions here Cruize. Three Players (Taylor, Olave, Rasheed) are rookies. We haven’t even seen Penning yet. Now, when you throw in Werner and Adebo that’s some pretty good young talent. Consider big money guys like Ram, Kamara and Latt are producing when on the field. If Thomas can ever get back on the field (queuing up map on that one) that’s a pretty good core moving into the future. I know it’s the Raiders and it’s one game, but I guess I’m optimistic. Maybe not for this season exactly, but I certainly don’t think we are in the blow it up and rebuild stage (now que up bako). Keep in mind that if Lutz makes a FG here or if Kamara/Ingram had one fewer fumble there or if the damn refs call a fair game this team could be 5-3 or 6-2 easily. I also realize the Ravens are a tough team to take on next week. Could be singing a different tune.
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10-31-2022, 09:56 AM	#10
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Observations from the Saints' Dominating Win vs Raiders Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’d like to point out an important thing(s) you mentions here Cruize. Three Players (Taylor, Olave, Rasheed) are rookies. We haven’t even seen Penning yet. Now, when you throw in Werner and Adebo that’s some pretty good young talent. Consider big money guys like Ram, Kamara and Latt are producing when on the field. If Thomas can ever get back on the field (queuing up map on that one) that’s a pretty good core moving into the future. I know it’s the Raiders and it’s one game, but I guess I’m optimistic. Maybe not for this season exactly, but I certainly don’t think we are in the blow it up and rebuild stage (now que up bako). Keep in mind that if Lutz makes a FG here or if Kamara/Ingram had one fewer fumble there or if the damn refs call a fair game this team could be 5-3 or 6-2 easily. Not nitpicking your post but we're fine without Thomas, really have been. The guy has barely seen the field in 2 years and these young wr's are getting into rhythm ,as far as Ingram I would bring in another back right now and only use Ingram on tough yds. depending on the situation only. Boston Saint likes this.