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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint Can’t get rid of him. Contract makes it practically impossible. Get used to it. Imagine if the prima donna actually cared.... maybe he would re-negotiate his contract...free up money, get some talent, ala Drew Brees...AND ...
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
Originally Posted by Boston Saint
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Imagine if the prima donna actually cared.... maybe he would re-negotiate his contract...free up money, get some talent, ala Drew Brees...AND when and IF he ever gets fully healthy...original contract terms can be addressed when he proves himself able. Just a dream.... Prima Donna's do not think like that. ![]() |
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
Originally Posted by mapcow
That's delusional fan thinking believing that players are rabid fans like us and would do anything, even to their own personal detriment, to help the team.![]()
Why don't you go first? Monday morning go to your CEO's office and offer to take a pay cut in order to help the company bottom line. Dude, for everyone in the NFL it's a career. It's a livelihood. Even though everyone is paid huge amounts of money to do the work, only fool would give up what they worked for in order to better the team. That is not a dream. That's a delusion. You should get some help for that. SFIAH |
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
I am not sick at home or injured sitting the bench.. I actually perform my tasks as I am paid for. Seems your nose is a bit brown there my somewhat ignorant friend.![]()
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
Originally Posted by mapcow
First off as many fans love to say "the contract is the contract" It's guaranteed for injury. Do you work at a job that has a 100% injury rate? If you did, your contract would probably be guaranteed for injury too.![]()
As for Brees, look at the date. That was in the 2021 offseason. Brees had likely already decided to retire. He wasn't to play in 2021. So, dropping that salary only served for cap cost accounting purposes since that 2021 salary was never going to be paid anyway. That article actually has a link to an earlier article where Brees restructured to help the team out in a cap situation in 2019. But it wasn't a pay cut. It was a restructure moving salary to bonus and pushing the payments into further cap years. Cap years like this year where the Saints are still paying $11 million to the cap for Brees in dead money. So, did he really help the team? It's more of a toss up than it looks. There's no ignorance here. I'm simply explaining the system as it works. You are railing against both the player and the system because you don't like how either works. But if you are right and MT13 is a lazy, selfish, prima donna, then you are going to get your wish. The Saints cannot carry a $28 million cap hit for MT13 into 2023. And the supposedly selfish player likely won't take an actual pay cut on the current contract. So, the team will cut him, he will be gone, and you hopefully will finally be happy. So, here's my question to you: Olave gives the Saints 5 stellar years of service and it's now time for that second contract. Given what happened with Thomas, what do you think the Saints ought to do? Play for performance is off the table as Olave will simply go to free agency and get paid by a team that will give the huge signing bonus and injury guarantees. Has a team been successful with only talent on rookie contracts? Because that's the only way teams can get the value that you seek. Under your wishing scheme, the Saints wouldn't have Ram, Lattimore, Kamara, Jordan or any other long time veterans. SFIAH |
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
To your question....Learn from it and not be stupid is all.![]()
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
Learn what sir? Learn to predict the future? Learn to never give long term contracts?
I'm trying to have a serious conversation about management of these issues and all you seem to have is meaningless pithy quips. Without a doubt the ![]() SFIAH |
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
I'll give you another chance to specifically answer my question:
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Re: Michael Thomas to IR
I’ll answer it bro. For one, I fully expect Olave to do what you’re proposing. Two, you gotta pay him when he does. If you wanna win a Super Bowl you’re gonna pay for it.
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