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Rugby Saint II 11-16-2022 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 963364)
Maybe the Saints need a strength/conditioning and nutritions expert team like Coach Brian Kelly seems to have put together at LSU. Have the Saints lost their way in certain parts of the organization?

Matt Rhea's specialty is soft tissue injuries. We have not had very many of those this year. He can't control the other injuries but we need to find somebody who can! The folks we have doing it are not getting the job done!

Boston Saint 11-16-2022 11:25 AM

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I maintain a less-contact based preseason has made guys softer.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2022 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 963390)
I think they want to give all teams a “chance” by establishing a cap to avoid mega-spending teams ruling the league. But they don’t want parity 8-8 teams throughout the league. The league loves stars and winners. They want record setters and attention grabbers. The league really only has to have about 3-4 good matchups a week to show nationwide to keep interest.

Ideally the NFL would want a different team to win it all every year. Even with absolutely parity there are other factors that will always cause some teams to rise up and others fall down with injuries being a major one of those factors. One team winning it all every year becomes just as deflating as every team finishing at 8-9 or 9-8.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2022 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 963394)
Matt Rhea's specialty is soft tissue injuries. We have not had very many of those this year. He can't control the other injuries but we need to find somebody who can! The folks we have doing it are not getting the job done!

Yes, we have had a run of serious toe injuries, high ankle sprains, and concussions. Actually, most teams have. Really none of these have to do with any sort of strength or conditioning. Equipment in the case of the toe injuries could be a factor. Or playing surface could be the issue. The high ankle sprains cannot be prevented nor can the concussions beyond what they league is already doing. It's just dumb luck. It just like the Rams losing Kupp to the ankle this past week along with their starting LT and RG for other reasons.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2022 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 963395)
I maintain a less-contact based preseason has made guys softer.

Perhaps. But I believe it has more to do with the players becoming bigger, stronger, and faster every year. Football has always been a violent game, but it is becoming more and more violent every year just based upon the players themselves. Just look at games from 40 years ago. They were not flying around at every position they way they are now. It's a different game.

Boston Saint 11-16-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 963396)
Ideally the NFL would want a different team to win it all every year.

Why would this be ideal? The league is trying to sell itself globally. They want the common big names to win. Not unknown cities. The Ideal Super bowl for them is a big East Coast city vs a big West Coast city with a little bit of old guard Packers/Stealers/Dallas thrown in. The hardest thing for them to sell is a matchup between the Saints and Titans for SB.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 963405)
Why would this be ideal? The league is trying to sell itself globally. They want the common big names to win. Not unknown cities. The Ideal Super bowl for them is a big East Coast city vs a big West Coast city with a little bit of old guard Packers/Stealers/Dallas thrown in. The hardest thing for them to sell is a matchup between the Saints and Titans for SB.

They are already selling it. Or well on the way. The global market has no predefined ties to older successful franchises. The NFL has an international marketing plan that ties specific franchises to different global areas. They call it International Marketing Rights.

Regardless, the Super Bowl sells itself. It will always be the most watched broadcast every year just as it has been for years and years. To the international market it just the NFL and they are starved to watch it. Or at least that's the take on most every article I have read about it.

Don't forget that arguably the worst franchise in the league, J'Ville' sells out every game in Europe.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2022 12:30 PM

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Here's another article on International Marketing Rights.

NFL awards international marketing rights to 18 teams in eight countries

My understanding is that the individual teams have to apply for the rights. Apparently New Orleans hasn't completed the process yet.

Boston Saint 11-16-2022 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 963406)
They are already selling it. Or well on the way. The global market has no predefined ties to older successful franchises. The NFL has an international marketing plan that ties specific franchises to different global areas. They call it International Marketing Rights.

Regardless, the Super Bowl sells itself. It will always be the most watched broadcast every year just as it has been for years and years. To the international market it just the NFL and they are starved to watch it. Or at least that's the take on most every article I have read about it.

Don't forget that arguably the worst franchise in the league, J'Ville' sells out every game in Europe.

Ok, but weather or not people watch the super bowl is not the same as saying they want a different team to win each year. That’s BS. I don’t care what propaganda they put out that’s not true. The Mayor of NYC said it himself when he said New York is a brand. Kansas is not a brand.

There is no doubt that a world series of Yankees vs Dodgers draws more viewers than a WS of Royals vs Rockies. NFL is the same.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2022 12:38 PM

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I know they are planning for France to be a location for games in the future. Maybe that's where the Saints want to market.



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