Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers

K Major · 11-29-2022, 09:23 AM

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papz · 11-29-2022, 09:47 AM

I'm becoming concerned about re-signing Elliss. He's going to become 28 next season so this is his one chance to captalize on getting a lucrative long term contract.

SmashMouth · 11-29-2022, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I'm becoming concerned about re-signing Elliss. He's going to become 28 next season so this is his one chance to captalize on getting a lucrative long term contract.

Exactly... it took a while to develop him. Even with that, don't expect a home team discount, not that he would break the bank based on his prior production.

Sinner · 11-29-2022, 10:15 AM

All this talk about "punching the ball out" of the Star Running Back's hands, being a perfectly executed defensive play, and no fault of the Ball Carrier, or the COACHING of the Ball Carrier... Nah. Way back in the day, we had Coach punching the ball so hard, we would puke. That was fundamental stuff. We were COACHED to HOLD THE DAMN BALL.

TheOak · 11-29-2022, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

At his point do you feel it would be worth the $2 million plus dead cap hit to replace him with the leftover kickers still available for the rest of the season? Is there any guarantee they would be as good?

As for someone getting looked at, I believe several of the kickers they had in during the offseason are still available. They are on speed dial.

Focusing a player is not a binary decision. I said nothing about replacing him.

AsylumGuido · 11-29-2022, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Focusing a player is not a binary decision. I said nothing about replacing him.

Then I guess I have completely missed your point. Why exactly do you expect Allen to waste valuable time by bringing in scrub kickers for a tryout which you have already tried out if you have no plan on replacing your kicker?

Boston Saint · 11-29-2022, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

All this talk about "punching the ball out" of the Star Running Back's hands, being a perfectly executed defensive play, and no fault of the Ball Carrier, or the COACHING of the Ball Carrier... Nah. Way back in the day, we had Coach punching the ball so hard, we would puke. That was fundamental stuff. We were COACHED to HOLD THE DAMN BALL.

Yeah, after all a 6 year All-pro with over 1,000 carries has to be told not to fumble 🙄.

AsylumGuido · 11-29-2022, 11:29 AM

K Major · 11-29-2022, 11:37 AM

Not sure why Pete Carmichael waited so long to start utilizing a "threat" in Shaheed.

Interesting stat line on Rashid in the Niners game :

"Shaheed converted a first down on all three of his touches against the San Francisco 49ers last Sunday. He caught a 35-yard reception on 2nd-and-6, followed by an 18-yard pickup on 3rd-and-3. And he also took a carry off the left end for a 6-yard gain on 2nd-and-5. He’s touched the ball 10 times on offense and either converted a first down or scored a touchdown on 8 of them."

Weber St finest!

Again, get your playmakers more involved Pete.

Deonte Harty is gone in 2023.

Sinner · 11-29-2022, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Yeah, after all a 6 year All-pro with over 1,000 carries has to be told not to fumble 🙄.

Um... YEAH. He does. Or haven't you noticed?

11-29-2022, 09:47 AM	#82
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers I'm becoming concerned about re-signing Elliss. He's going to become 28 next season so this is his one chance to captalize on getting a lucrative long term contract. SmashMouth likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by papz I'm becoming concerned about re-signing Elliss. He's going to become 28 next season so this is his one chance to captalize on getting a lucrative long term contract. Exactly... it took a while to develop him. Even with that, don't expect a home team discount, not that he would break the bank based on his prior production. papz likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,824	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers All this talk about "punching the ball out" of the Star Running Back's hands, being a perfectly executed defensive play, and no fault of the Ball Carrier, or the COACHING of the Ball Carrier... Nah. Way back in the day, we had Coach punching the ball so hard, we would puke. That was fundamental stuff. We were COACHED to HOLD THE DAMN BALL. jnormand, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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11-29-2022, 10:17 AM	#85
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido At his point do you feel it would be worth the $2 million plus dead cap hit to replace him with the leftover kickers still available for the rest of the season? Is there any guarantee they would be as good? As for someone getting looked at, I believe several of the kickers they had in during the offseason are still available. They are on speed dial. Focusing a player is not a binary decision. I said nothing about replacing him.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by TheOak Focusing a player is not a binary decision. I said nothing about replacing him. Then I guess I have completely missed your point. Why exactly do you expect Allen to waste valuable time by bringing in scrub kickers for a tryout which you have already tried out if you have no plan on replacing your kicker?

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by Sinner All this talk about "punching the ball out" of the Star Running Back's hands, being a perfectly executed defensive play, and no fault of the Ball Carrier, or the COACHING of the Ball Carrier... Nah. Way back in the day, we had Coach punching the ball so hard, we would puke. That was fundamental stuff. We were COACHED to HOLD THE DAMN BALL. Yeah, after all a 6 year All-pro with over 1,000 carries has to be told not to fumble 🙄.

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11-29-2022, 11:37 AM	#89
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers Not sure why Pete Carmichael waited so long to start utilizing a "threat" in Shaheed. Interesting stat line on Rashid in the Niners game : "Shaheed converted a first down on all three of his touches against the San Francisco 49ers last Sunday. He caught a 35-yard reception on 2nd-and-6, followed by an 18-yard pickup on 3rd-and-3. And he also took a carry off the left end for a 6-yard gain on 2nd-and-5. He’s touched the ball 10 times on offense and either converted a first down or scored a touchdown on 8 of them." Weber St finest! Again, get your playmakers more involved Pete. Deonte Harty is gone in 2023. SmashMouth and shawnkytonk like this.
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11-29-2022, 11:54 AM	#90
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,824	Re: Observations from the saints Loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by Boston Saint Yeah, after all a 6 year All-pro with over 1,000 carries has to be told not to fumble 🙄. Um... YEAH. He does. Or haven't you noticed?
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