Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs

Boston Saint · 12-08-2022, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

^^^ Necessary Buzz-Kill...

Reality check

K Major · 12-08-2022, 04:37 PM

Looking ahead to the next opponent after the bye week is Atlanta.

I see they have named the rookie Desmond Ridder as their starter @ QB.

Rsanders24 · 12-08-2022, 10:16 PM

The Raiders lost the same way…smh

neugey · 12-08-2022, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

The Raiders lost the same way…smh

Is 16-3 the new 28-3?

leilung · 12-09-2022, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

The Raiders lost the same way…smh

Same but different. Or maybe not....
After the game, Mayfield said that he couldn't believe that with that much field to cover in 15 secs, that the defense was in Man coverage and not Zone....

hmmm.

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Yeah that's been the case for a while to be honest. Just a non existent running game and refusal to use Taysom where he excels.

Watching Ingram run out of bounds make me want to vomit, he even takes a step and angles out of bounds at the last minute.

Any practice squad RB gets that first down. You see players all the time for other teams not only make that play, but then slide down instead of going out of bounds. Just dumb.

Taysome only works when we are overtly dominant in the run game or the offense is clicking. He isn't "The offense" he's a nice compliment to what the offense does He doesn't fool anybody anymore everyone and their mother knows what's going on when he's in the game. Think ywe going run with Taysom every play to SB ?

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I don’t understand the hate on Dalton. I mean I get that he’s not the new face of the franchise. But he played pretty good from a stat point. I didn’t watch the game.

Hell I stopped following it in the 4th with time winding down and a 16-3 lead so I could get my son to bed. Checked it a bit later and saw we blew it and lost. I just started laughing.

How pathetic.

I see he has plenty of you fooled too makes sense for the passes he's been giving in here it's Cowboys chose cooper rush over him. Bears chose Justin fields over him.

MatthewT · 12-09-2022, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I see he has plenty of you fooled too makes sense for the passes he's been giving in here it's Cowboys chose cooper rush over him. Bears chose Justin fields over him.

Dalton is very similar to what Jim Everett was when he played for the Saints. Puts up decent numbers but not wins. Jim Everett was the king of garbage yards, Dalton isn't too far behind him... lol

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by cars4dylan

No...use him properly.

Did Sean Payton rip out the page of the iPad that had screenplays? WTSeriousF!!!

Dalton did really well with the exception of taking that sack instead of throwing it away (again).

Pete Carmichael has to go because he's either incapable of being "Sean Payton-like" or he is afraid of being called "Sean Payton-like". The 3rd down with Hill and Merritt being the only route runners should have gotten him a pink slip right on the spot. Let alone the 3rd and 1 and with Calloway being the "go-to" guy for the slant route. Personnel groupings for each play is utterly nonsensical.

And DA should focus on Defense Coordinator, he's phenomenal.

But overall "Leadership Skills" for the team right now can best be described with one word, FECKLESS.

Thank you some the guys will sit in here and make injuries an excuse for DA bot not for the players on the field? The Saints interior Oline has been trash for every since Kelemete walked. Whatever he doing now is irrelevant when he was here we moved bodies. Can't run the ball inside we don't run the ball outside. MI had a 7 yard "run" that boosted his output that was a backwards pass behind the LOS other than that the run game was the same. Some these guys really believe numbers tell it all and it doesn't. AK shouldn't be starting anymore? Please go take a seat in the dumpster and take those stupid @$$ takes with you.

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 08:58 AM

I understand poor football from the Saints leaves us with a constant bad taste in our mouth. Let's not let that taste be spread in the forum with RIDICULOUS non-sensical takes. Freedom of speech toy can say what you want I totally agree but somethings have ZERO sense to it. I'm with blowing the team up it has to start with a New GM then New HC and let them weed out who's worth or not worth a roster spot. Saying trade players for a couple bad games that are once in lifetime players not easily replaced with alot of value left is weird because CJGJ had plenty mishaps and alot fans of the team was butt hurt when he got traded be careful what you wish for. Saints are so spoiled its disgusting at times.

12-08-2022, 02:44 PM	#91
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12-08-2022, 04:37 PM	#92
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Looking ahead to the next opponent after the bye week is Atlanta. I see they have named the rookie Desmond Ridder as their starter @ QB. Rsanders24 likes this.

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Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs The Raiders lost the same way…smh neugey and K Major like this.

12-08-2022, 10:34 PM	#94
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,673 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rsanders24 The Raiders lost the same way…smh Is 16-3 the new 28-3? Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,351	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rsanders24 The Raiders lost the same way…smh Same but different. Or maybe not.... After the game, Mayfield said that he couldn't believe that with that much field to cover in 15 secs, that the defense was in Man coverage and not Zone.... hmmm. MatthewT likes this.

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12-09-2022, 08:38 AM	#96
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by dizzle88 Yeah that's been the case for a while to be honest. Just a non existent running game and refusal to use Taysom where he excels. Watching Ingram run out of bounds make me want to vomit, he even takes a step and angles out of bounds at the last minute. Any practice squad RB gets that first down. You see players all the time for other teams not only make that play, but then slide down instead of going out of bounds. Just dumb. Taysome only works when we are overtly dominant in the run game or the offense is clicking. He isn't "The offense" he's a nice compliment to what the offense does He doesn't fool anybody anymore everyone and their mother knows what's going on when he's in the game. Think ywe going run with Taysom every play to SB ?

12-09-2022, 08:40 AM	#97
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by jnormand I don’t understand the hate on Dalton. I mean I get that he’s not the new face of the franchise. But he played pretty good from a stat point. I didn’t watch the game. Hell I stopped following it in the 4th with time winding down and a 16-3 lead so I could get my son to bed. Checked it a bit later and saw we blew it and lost. I just started laughing. How pathetic. I see he has plenty of you fooled too makes sense for the passes he's been giving in here it's Cowboys chose cooper rush over him. Bears chose Justin fields over him. MatthewT likes this.

12-09-2022, 08:47 AM	#98
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold I see he has plenty of you fooled too makes sense for the passes he's been giving in here it's Cowboys chose cooper rush over him. Bears chose Justin fields over him. Dalton is very similar to what Jim Everett was when he played for the Saints. Puts up decent numbers but not wins. Jim Everett was the king of garbage yards, Dalton isn't too far behind him... lol

12-09-2022, 08:49 AM	#99
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by cars4dylan No...use him properly. Did Sean Payton rip out the page of the iPad that had screenplays? WTSeriousF!!! Dalton did really well with the exception of taking that sack instead of throwing it away (again). Pete Carmichael has to go because he's either incapable of being "Sean Payton-like" or he is afraid of being called "Sean Payton-like". The 3rd down with Hill and Merritt being the only route runners should have gotten him a pink slip right on the spot. Let alone the 3rd and 1 and with Calloway being the "go-to" guy for the slant route. Personnel groupings for each play is utterly nonsensical. And DA should focus on Defense Coordinator, he's phenomenal. But overall "Leadership Skills" for the team right now can best be described with one word, FECKLESS. Thank you some the guys will sit in here and make injuries an excuse for DA bot not for the players on the field? The Saints interior Oline has been trash for every since Kelemete walked. Whatever he doing now is irrelevant when he was here we moved bodies. Can't run the ball inside we don't run the ball outside. MI had a 7 yard "run" that boosted his output that was a backwards pass behind the LOS other than that the run game was the same. Some these guys really believe numbers tell it all and it doesn't. AK shouldn't be starting anymore? Please go take a seat in the dumpster and take those stupid @$$ takes with you.

12-09-2022, 08:58 AM	#100
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs I understand poor football from the Saints leaves us with a constant bad taste in our mouth. Let's not let that taste be spread in the forum with RIDICULOUS non-sensical takes. Freedom of speech toy can say what you want I totally agree but somethings have ZERO sense to it. I'm with blowing the team up it has to start with a New GM then New HC and let them weed out who's worth or not worth a roster spot. Saying trade players for a couple bad games that are once in lifetime players not easily replaced with alot of value left is weird because CJGJ had plenty mishaps and alot fans of the team was butt hurt when he got traded be careful what you wish for. Saints are so spoiled its disgusting at times.