Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs

iceshack149 · 12-09-2022, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

I see he has plenty of you fooled too makes sense for the passes he's been giving in here it's Cowboys chose cooper rush over him. Bears chose Justin fields over him.

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Dalton is very similar to what Jim Everett was when he played for the Saints. Puts up decent numbers but not wins. Jim Everett was the king of garbage yards, Dalton isn't too far behind him... lol

Dalton is an average QB. He's been better than many other players on this team. He placed two perfectly thrown balls to Olave and Landry that would likely have been TD's that they dropped.

Like the Ravens with Dilfer, the Bucs with Brad Johnson, the Broncos with a spent Manning, the Saints could win with Dalton.

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Dalton is an average QB. He's been better than many other players on this team. He placed to perfectly thrown balls to Olave and Landry that would likely have been TD's that they dropped.

Like the Ravens with Dilfer, the Bucs with Brad Johnson, the Broncos with a spent Manning, the Saints could win with Dalton.

He has done that. He's also missed reads. Made poor decisions. Taken terrible sacks. Some bad ball placement as well. He's average QB no doubt he's apart of the problem as well.

Rugby Saint II · 12-09-2022, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Dalton is an average QB. He's been better than many other players on this team. He placed two perfectly thrown balls to Olave and Landry that would likely have been TD's that they dropped.

Like the Ravens with Dilfer, the Bucs with Brad Johnson, the Broncos with a spent Manning, the Saints could win with Dalton.

The Saints could win with Dalton. I agree with that. They just can't win with Carmichael as the OC and Dennis Allen as the head coach. We thought the continuity was good and we've seen that work with the Steelers. Unfortunately, this isn't working for us.

SmashMouth · 12-09-2022, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

The Saints could win with Dalton. I agree with that. They just can't win with Carmichael as the OC and Dennis Allen as the head coach. We thought the continuity was good and we've seen that work with the Steelers. Unfortunately, this isn't working for us.

Tomlin was not an in-house hire, FWIW.

K Major · 12-09-2022, 03:07 PM

I really think the Saints are fortunate to have two young, talented WRs.

Olave and Shaheed.

4 targets / 4 receptions & a 40 yard kick off return vs Tampa.

In a limited role, 12 receptions for 240 yards (20 ypc)/1 TD - 2022.

The kid is balling as a rookie.

Side note - Olave will win the ROTY award.

Boston Saint · 12-09-2022, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I really think the Saints are fortunate to have two young, talented WRs.

Olave and Shaheed.

4 targets / 4 receptions & a 40 yard kick off return vs Tampa.

In a limited role, 12 receptions for 240 yards (20 ypc)/1 TD - 2022.

The kid is balling as a rookie.

Side note - Olave will win the ROTY award.

Taylor is a stud as well. Hopefully Trevor Penning can pan out as well.

jnormand · 12-09-2022, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

He has done that. He's also missed reads. Made poor decisions. Taken terrible sacks. Some bad ball placement as well. He's average QB no doubt he's apart of the problem as well.

Oh Relly, you’re just mad that ol’ Crabby Patty isn’t the QB. Lol. Dalton hasn’t been bad at all. He’s just not going to light the world on fire. He was brought in as a backup. He’s been better than most in that same role that get tossed into the starting lineup.

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Oh Relly, you’re just mad that ol’ Crabby Patty isn’t the QB. Lol. Dalton hasn’t been bad at all. He’s just not going to light the world on fire. He was brought in as a backup. He’s been better than most in that same role that get tossed into the starting lineup.

I'm not mad that Jameis isn't the QB but I know avg QB play when I see it. All the stat padding like Trevor Siemiean with a couple big throws here and there. When it counts when it matters the most Andy Dalton is not leading this team No better than Jameis if not worse. I don't deal with facts from one side unlike some of you I look at the whole picture do I agree Jameis shouldn't have lost his position to injury? Absolutely especially when the guy replacing you is 3-7 since he's taking over and one of those games he just handed the ball of most of the game. I said he's avg we agree there. But he's been in position to win games for us and have not came through AT ALL. Jameis first and only win unfortunately was a 4th quarter comeback. Make all the BS Jameis jokes all you want Andy Dalton is still mid.

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 07:02 PM

Andy is not capable of carrying a team to victory. Should you have to do it every game NO. You should be able to do when the opportunity arises to close out games Andy is as inept as the OC n HC.

Rell&Gold · 12-09-2022, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Oh Relly, you’re just mad that ol’ Crabby Patty isn’t the QB. Lol. Dalton hasn’t been bad at all. He’s just not going to light the world on fire. He was brought in as a backup. He’s been better than most in that same role that get tossed into the starting lineup.

How delusional can you be Andy hasn't been bad at all? At all? He hasn't been better than most. He's 4-9 if play was better than most the team would be better than most. Jameis was injured missed the pre-season. What's Dalton excuse?

12-09-2022, 10:03 AM	#101
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold I see he has plenty of you fooled too makes sense for the passes he's been giving in here it's Cowboys chose cooper rush over him. Bears chose Justin fields over him. Originally Posted by MatthewT Dalton is very similar to what Jim Everett was when he played for the Saints. Puts up decent numbers but not wins. Jim Everett was the king of garbage yards, Dalton isn't too far behind him... lol Dalton is an average QB. He's been better than many other players on this team. He placed two perfectly thrown balls to Olave and Landry that would likely have been TD's that they dropped. Like the Ravens with Dilfer, the Bucs with Brad Johnson, the Broncos with a spent Manning, the Saints could win with Dalton.

12-09-2022, 10:10 AM	#102
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by iceshack149 Dalton is an average QB. He's been better than many other players on this team. He placed to perfectly thrown balls to Olave and Landry that would likely have been TD's that they dropped. Like the Ravens with Dilfer, the Bucs with Brad Johnson, the Broncos with a spent Manning, the Saints could win with Dalton. He has done that. He's also missed reads. Made poor decisions. Taken terrible sacks. Some bad ball placement as well. He's average QB no doubt he's apart of the problem as well.

12-09-2022, 01:54 PM	#103
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by iceshack149 Dalton is an average QB. He's been better than many other players on this team. He placed two perfectly thrown balls to Olave and Landry that would likely have been TD's that they dropped. Like the Ravens with Dilfer, the Bucs with Brad Johnson, the Broncos with a spent Manning, the Saints could win with Dalton. The Saints could win with Dalton. I agree with that. They just can't win with Carmichael as the OC and Dennis Allen as the head coach. We thought the continuity was good and we've seen that work with the Steelers. Unfortunately, this isn't working for us. iceshack149, dizzle88 and Sinner like this.

12-09-2022, 02:42 PM	#104
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II The Saints could win with Dalton. I agree with that. They just can't win with Carmichael as the OC and Dennis Allen as the head coach. We thought the continuity was good and we've seen that work with the Steelers. Unfortunately, this isn't working for us. Tomlin was not an in-house hire, FWIW. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-09-2022, 03:07 PM	#105
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs I really think the Saints are fortunate to have two young, talented WRs. Olave and Shaheed. 4 targets / 4 receptions & a 40 yard kick off return vs Tampa. In a limited role, 12 receptions for 240 yards (20 ypc)/1 TD - 2022. The kid is balling as a rookie. Side note - Olave will win the ROTY award. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

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12-09-2022, 05:39 PM	#106
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by K Major I really think the Saints are fortunate to have two young, talented WRs. Olave and Shaheed. 4 targets / 4 receptions & a 40 yard kick off return vs Tampa. In a limited role, 12 receptions for 240 yards (20 ypc)/1 TD - 2022. The kid is balling as a rookie. Side note - Olave will win the ROTY award. Taylor is a stud as well. Hopefully Trevor Penning can pan out as well. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-09-2022, 06:19 PM	#107
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,661	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold He has done that. He's also missed reads. Made poor decisions. Taken terrible sacks. Some bad ball placement as well. He's average QB no doubt he's apart of the problem as well. Oh Relly, you’re just mad that ol’ Crabby Patty isn’t the QB. Lol. Dalton hasn’t been bad at all. He’s just not going to light the world on fire. He was brought in as a backup. He’s been better than most in that same role that get tossed into the starting lineup. iceshack149 likes this.

12-09-2022, 07:00 PM	#108
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by jnormand Oh Relly, you’re just mad that ol’ Crabby Patty isn’t the QB. Lol. Dalton hasn’t been bad at all. He’s just not going to light the world on fire. He was brought in as a backup. He’s been better than most in that same role that get tossed into the starting lineup. I'm not mad that Jameis isn't the QB but I know avg QB play when I see it. All the stat padding like Trevor Siemiean with a couple big throws here and there. When it counts when it matters the most Andy Dalton is not leading this team No better than Jameis if not worse. I don't deal with facts from one side unlike some of you I look at the whole picture do I agree Jameis shouldn't have lost his position to injury? Absolutely especially when the guy replacing you is 3-7 since he's taking over and one of those games he just handed the ball of most of the game. I said he's avg we agree there. But he's been in position to win games for us and have not came through AT ALL. Jameis first and only win unfortunately was a 4th quarter comeback. Make all the BS Jameis jokes all you want Andy Dalton is still mid. Rsanders24 and AsylumGuido like this.

12-09-2022, 07:02 PM	#109
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Andy is not capable of carrying a team to victory. Should you have to do it every game NO. You should be able to do when the opportunity arises to close out games Andy is as inept as the OC n HC.

12-09-2022, 07:05 PM	#110
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by jnormand Oh Relly, you’re just mad that ol’ Crabby Patty isn’t the QB. Lol. Dalton hasn’t been bad at all. He’s just not going to light the world on fire. He was brought in as a backup. He’s been better than most in that same role that get tossed into the starting lineup. How delusional can you be Andy hasn't been bad at all? At all? He hasn't been better than most. He's 4-9 if play was better than most the team would be better than most. Jameis was injured missed the pre-season. What's Dalton excuse? Rsanders24 likes this.