Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs

Rsanders24 · 12-10-2022, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

How delusional can you be Andy hasn't been bad at all? At all? He hasn't been better than most. He's 4-9 if play was better than most the team would be better than most. Jameis was injured missed the pre-season. What's Dalton excuse?

You are wasting your time. If Winston had the stats and record that Dalton had they would be calling for his head and saying he sucks and is trash. I could be wrong but I truly believe that we would have a few more wins because of the big play potential.

Both are average but somehow Dalton gets a pass and Winston doesn’t. At this point what does it hurt to try something different…

Rugby Saint II · 12-11-2022, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

You are wasting your time. If Winston had the stats and record that Dalton had they would be calling for his head and saying he sucks and is trash. I could be wrong but I truly believe that we would have a few more wins because of the big play potential.

Both are average but somehow Dalton gets a pass and Winston doesn’t. At this point what does it hurt to try something different…

They both make mistakes. However, Dalton does not throw as many interceptions. He isn't flustered with a pass rush, Dalton actually knows how to read a defense and find his check down valve if necessary. I had hoped that Winston could replicate the performance under Sean Payton. Apparently, Dennis Allen has seen enough to realize that Dalton gives us a better chance. Maybe not the best chance of winning but better than we would with Winston. It's unfortunate and I had hoped that Winston would play better.

K Major · 12-11-2022, 03:00 PM

Kinda off topic but I see former Saint FS Marcus Williams with another INT on Mitch Trubisky.

He’s a legit center fielder with range.

I was hoping the Saints retained his services. Oh well 🤷🏼

AsylumGuido · 12-11-2022, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Kinda off topic but I see former Saint FS Marcus Williams with another INT on Mitch Trubisky.

He’s a legit center fielder with range.

I was hoping the Saints retained his services. Oh well 🤷🏼

I remember a large percentage of Saints fans that wanted Williams gone claiming he was a defensive liability and couldn't tackle. I wasn't among them, but they were a very vocal number.

MatthewT · 12-12-2022, 07:50 AM

Keeping Marcus Williams would have been great, but the Saints did the right thing by letting him walk due to his salary demands. IMO, FS is generally a position best not to break the bank on, and in most situations is easy to find suitable replacements through the draft or mid tier free agency. Of course the talent evaluators must do a better job and not bring in almost washed up guys named Honey Badger...

12-10-2022, 12:49 PM	#111
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rell&Gold How delusional can you be Andy hasn't been bad at all? At all? He hasn't been better than most. He's 4-9 if play was better than most the team would be better than most. Jameis was injured missed the pre-season. What's Dalton excuse? You are wasting your time. If Winston had the stats and record that Dalton had they would be calling for his head and saying he sucks and is trash. I could be wrong but I truly believe that we would have a few more wins because of the big play potential. Both are average but somehow Dalton gets a pass and Winston doesn’t. At this point what does it hurt to try something different… leilung and Rell&Gold like this.

12-11-2022, 02:34 PM	#112
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by Rsanders24 You are wasting your time. If Winston had the stats and record that Dalton had they would be calling for his head and saying he sucks and is trash. I could be wrong but I truly believe that we would have a few more wins because of the big play potential. Both are average but somehow Dalton gets a pass and Winston doesn’t. At this point what does it hurt to try something different… They both make mistakes. However, Dalton does not throw as many interceptions. He isn't flustered with a pass rush, Dalton actually knows how to read a defense and find his check down valve if necessary. I had hoped that Winston could replicate the performance under Sean Payton. Apparently, Dennis Allen has seen enough to realize that Dalton gives us a better chance. Maybe not the best chance of winning but better than we would with Winston. It's unfortunate and I had hoped that Winston would play better. iceshack149 and jnormand like this.

12-11-2022, 03:00 PM	#113
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Kinda off topic but I see former Saint FS Marcus Williams with another INT on Mitch Trubisky. He’s a legit center fielder with range. I was hoping the Saints retained his services. Oh well 🤷🏼

12-11-2022, 03:46 PM	#114
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Originally Posted by K Major Kinda off topic but I see former Saint FS Marcus Williams with another INT on Mitch Trubisky. He’s a legit center fielder with range. I was hoping the Saints retained his services. Oh well 🤷🏼 I remember a large percentage of Saints fans that wanted Williams gone claiming he was a defensive liability and couldn't tackle. I wasn't among them, but they were a very vocal number.

12-12-2022, 07:50 AM	#115
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Observations from the Saints last second loss to Bucs Keeping Marcus Williams would have been great, but the Saints did the right thing by letting him walk due to his salary demands. IMO, FS is generally a position best not to break the bank on, and in most situations is easy to find suitable replacements through the draft or mid tier free agency. Of course the talent evaluators must do a better job and not bring in almost washed up guys named Honey Badger...

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