Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong?

Boston Saint · 12-12-2022, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Injuries and roster holes. The Saints did the best they could addressing the WR position, but there just wasn't enough resources to properly address the running game. With the QB's on the roster, it was very vital to have a great running game, and unfortunately that didn't pan out. Ingram showed his age and Kamara seemed to seriously wear down. Hopefully the running game can be fixed for 2023 and maybe a better fit at QB can be found.

If those things aren’t addressed ain’t no coach gonna make a difference. Allen shored up the WR and OL holes Payton left him. He might have been Ok if Winston hadn’t broken his back. But without a QB, he really needed his RBs to show up. Instead they fumbled.

mapcow · 12-12-2022, 04:34 PM

Poor Coaching
Poor assistant coaching
Prima Donna's payforNOplay
Thugs allowed to run amuck in backfield
Pathetic feet on several players....lot of foot injuries, real and phantom
Prima Donna players on the roster
oh....did I say pathetic coaching.... previewed the year SP was not allowed to walk the sideline, for kickass bounty gate superbowl win.

Boston Saint · 12-12-2022, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Poor Coaching
Poor assistant coaching
Prima Donna's payforNOplay
Thugs allowed to run amuck in backfield
Pathetic feet on several players....lot of foot injuries, real and phantom
Prima Donna players on the roster
oh....did I say pathetic coaching.... previewed the year SP was not allowed to walk the sideline, for kickass bounty gate superbowl win.

You talking about the Rams, Falcons, or Broncos?

mapcow · 12-12-2022, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

You talking about the Rams, Falcons, or Broncos?

Nah...

I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team

jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad

Boston Saint · 12-12-2022, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Nah...

I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team

jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad

Now that hurts.

Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong.

AsylumGuido · 12-12-2022, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Now that hurts.

Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong.

Feel relieved you are not on the

level, Boston.

seems to be unstable. But, I might be insulted for being compared to me in other ways if I was you. None that I can think of specifically, but in

mind it must be an insult.

mapcow · 12-13-2022, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Now that hurts.

Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong.

i could be wrong about you.... but that guido dude. definitely not. hell even a deaf, dumb, and blind idiot can see that about that guido dude.

Rugby Saint II · 12-13-2022, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Nah...

I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team

jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad

Seriously?

Rell&Gold · 12-12-2022, 05:34 PM

Excuses excuses excuses. Your job is to build a winnable coaching team. Roster depth is apart of that. Next man up mentality can't happen if people don't believe the next man....Injuries are apart of the game. Losing players is a part of the game Proper preparation prevents poor performance. Steelers have always been good with having "starters in waiting" Chiefs lost players, Ravens lost players, Titans even started Malik once or twice, San Fran has played 3 different QBs. Everyone situation varies but everyone is impacted by Injuries nonetheless some teams Buccaneers had little to fall off in FA look at them. Excuses Excuses Excuses. Coaching is what failed this team. Decision making is what failed this team. Poor off-season acquisitions failed this team. The standard of Daints football dropped off alot. Players aren't sold and it shows. Is coaching the only issue? Absolutely not. It's definitely the biggest flag imo. If Andy was playing B+ or better football and the Defense was absolutely failing him wouldn't have no issues with him starting. Don't care about no PR or any of that you need QB that's going play mistake with in an offensive system or go out there and win you games. He does neither. Andy gets all the excuses in the world you guys were on Jameis so hard no slack when he was 5-2 , but support Andy from Toy story with his pitiful record. Tom Brady 4qtr comeback against just shows if there is an opportunity who's going to take it? Andy isn't that guy....Justin Fields beat him out of job who I don't believe is better but he's a PLAYMAKER has game changing tendencies. Andy is just there

K Major · 12-12-2022, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Excuses excuses excuses. Your job is to build a winnable coaching team. Roster depth is apart of that. Next man up mentality can't happen if people don't believe the next man....Injuries are apart of the game. Losing players is a part of the game Proper preparation prevents poor performance. Steelers have always been good with having "starters in waiting" Chiefs lost players, Ravens lost players, Titans even started Malik once or twice, San Fran has played 3 different QBs. Everyone situation varies but everyone is impacted by Injuries nonetheless some teams Buccaneers had little to fall off in FA look at them. Excuses Excuses Excuses. Coaching is what failed this team. Decision making is what failed this team. Poor off-season acquisitions failed this team.

12-12-2022, 03:54 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by MatthewT Injuries and roster holes. The Saints did the best they could addressing the WR position, but there just wasn't enough resources to properly address the running game. With the QB's on the roster, it was very vital to have a great running game, and unfortunately that didn't pan out. Ingram showed his age and Kamara seemed to seriously wear down. Hopefully the running game can be fixed for 2023 and maybe a better fit at QB can be found. If those things aren’t addressed ain’t no coach gonna make a difference. Allen shored up the WR and OL holes Payton left him. He might have been Ok if Winston hadn’t broken his back. But without a QB, he really needed his RBs to show up. Instead they fumbled. MatthewT and SmashMouth like this.

12-12-2022, 04:34 PM	#2
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Poor Coaching Poor assistant coaching Prima Donna's payforNOplay Thugs allowed to run amuck in backfield Pathetic feet on several players....lot of foot injuries, real and phantom Prima Donna players on the roster oh....did I say pathetic coaching.... previewed the year SP was not allowed to walk the sideline, for kickass bounty gate superbowl win.
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12-12-2022, 04:39 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by mapcow Poor Coaching Poor assistant coaching Prima Donna's payforNOplay Thugs allowed to run amuck in backfield Pathetic feet on several players....lot of foot injuries, real and phantom Prima Donna players on the roster oh....did I say pathetic coaching.... previewed the year SP was not allowed to walk the sideline, for kickass bounty gate superbowl win. You talking about the Rams, Falcons, or Broncos?

12-12-2022, 05:14 PM	#4
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by Boston Saint You talking about the Rams, Falcons, or Broncos? Nah... I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad
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12-12-2022, 05:58 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by mapcow Nah... I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad Now that hurts. Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong.

12-12-2022, 06:32 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Now that hurts. Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong. Feel relieved you are not on the level, Boston. seems to be unstable. But, I might be insulted for being compared to me in other ways if I was you. None that I can think of specifically, but in mind it must be an insult.

12-13-2022, 05:11 PM	#7
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by Boston Saint Now that hurts. Seriously though map, in what what am I arrogant? I am the one guy admitting I could be wrong. i could be wrong about you.... but that guido dude. definitely not. hell even a deaf, dumb, and blind idiot can see that about that guido dude.
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12-13-2022, 01:33 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,148	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by mapcow Nah... I only comment on Saints pretend football team..... and then, thats saying a hell of lot!..... Saints pretend football team jeeez... to think i gave you any credence of credit, but i see you and guido on the same level and share your ignorance;arogance...sad Seriously?

12-12-2022, 05:34 PM	#9
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Excuses excuses excuses. Your job is to build a winnable coaching team. Roster depth is apart of that. Next man up mentality can't happen if people don't believe the next man....Injuries are apart of the game. Losing players is a part of the game Proper preparation prevents poor performance. Steelers have always been good with having "starters in waiting" Chiefs lost players, Ravens lost players, Titans even started Malik once or twice, San Fran has played 3 different QBs. Everyone situation varies but everyone is impacted by Injuries nonetheless some teams Buccaneers had little to fall off in FA look at them. Excuses Excuses Excuses. Coaching is what failed this team. Decision making is what failed this team. Poor off-season acquisitions failed this team. The standard of Daints football dropped off alot. Players aren't sold and it shows. Is coaching the only issue? Absolutely not. It's definitely the biggest flag imo. If Andy was playing B+ or better football and the Defense was absolutely failing him wouldn't have no issues with him starting. Don't care about no PR or any of that you need QB that's going play mistake with in an offensive system or go out there and win you games. He does neither. Andy gets all the excuses in the world you guys were on Jameis so hard no slack when he was 5-2 , but support Andy from Toy story with his pitiful record. Tom Brady 4qtr comeback against just shows if there is an opportunity who's going to take it? Andy isn't that guy....Justin Fields beat him out of job who I don't believe is better but he's a PLAYMAKER has game changing tendencies. Andy is just there

12-12-2022, 05:52 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,824 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints set to have first losing season since 2016; so, what went wrong? Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Excuses excuses excuses. Your job is to build a winnable coaching team. Roster depth is apart of that. Next man up mentality can't happen if people don't believe the next man....Injuries are apart of the game. Losing players is a part of the game Proper preparation prevents poor performance. Steelers have always been good with having "starters in waiting" Chiefs lost players, Ravens lost players, Titans even started Malik once or twice, San Fran has played 3 different QBs. Everyone situation varies but everyone is impacted by Injuries nonetheless some teams Buccaneers had little to fall off in FA look at them. Excuses Excuses Excuses. Coaching is what failed this team. Decision making is what failed this team. Poor off-season acquisitions failed this team. Sinner likes this.