Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns

mapcow · 12-28-2022, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

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AsylumGuido · 12-28-2022, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary.

I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse.

I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints.

Sinner · 12-28-2022, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

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Rugby Saint II · 12-28-2022, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

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Yes sir!!! Always!

stickman · 12-29-2022, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints.

Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.)

mapcow · 12-29-2022, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.)

guido

K Major · 12-29-2022, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary.

I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse.

IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire.

I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500.

Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get.

Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing

Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs.

AsylumGuido · 12-29-2022, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.)

I can understand that. She is no doubt professionally invested in the Pelicans, but my meaning of "personally invested" was directed more toward personal relationships. She has shared on multiple occasions that she viewed both Payton and Loomis as sons and I understand that she has developed a strong personal relationship with Dennis Allen and his family, as well. I don't believe anything near that existed with a one and done Pelicans coach.

Sinner · 12-29-2022, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire.

I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500.

Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get.

Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing

Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs.

"Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire." <<<FACT.

Rugby Saint II · 12-29-2022, 11:10 AM

Dennis Allen won two in a row. Unfortunately, that means he'll be sticking around. Maybe. Just maybe Dennis Allen will do better with an innovative offensive coordinator.

12-28-2022, 01:45 PM	#51
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,741	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly why I have completely tuned out Sinner and close to doing the same with Bako. you are like one of those facebook creeps that always announce they are leaving but never do you must be a lib as well. Sinner and K Major like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary. I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse. I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,824	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly why I have completely tuned out Sinner and close to doing the same with Bako. LMFAO iceshack149 and K Major like this.
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12-29-2022, 06:34 AM	#55
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,672	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't think Gayle is nearly as personally invested into the Pels as she is with the Saints. Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.) K Major likes this.

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12-29-2022, 09:32 AM	#56
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,741	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.) guido
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12-29-2022, 09:36 AM	#57
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Same ownership, so we know Mrs. Benson is willing to make a move like that if she feels it is necessary. I just hope if they do make the move they have someone lined up. I hate it when people who want the coach fired say, "anyone would be better". No. It can ALWAYS get worse. IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire. I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500. Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get. Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs. iceshack149, dizzle88 and Sinner like this.
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12-29-2022, 10:09 AM	#58
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,048	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by stickman Respectfully disagree. I had always heard that the Pelicans were an after thought to Tom Benson, but not Gayle. She was involved with the rebranding and as owner made sure the Pels had there own resources and didn't have to share them with the Saints. (trainers, etc.) I can understand that. She is no doubt professionally invested in the Pelicans, but my meaning of "personally invested" was directed more toward personal relationships. She has shared on multiple occasions that she viewed both Payton and Loomis as sons and I understand that she has developed a strong personal relationship with Dennis Allen and his family, as well. I don't believe anything near that existed with a one and done Pelicans coach.

12-29-2022, 10:49 AM	#59
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,824	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Originally Posted by K Major IMO Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire. I think it was either Kevin or Underhill mention on their podcast that Dennis is currently 1-18 vs teams with winning records. Our best win this year was against Seattle & they are currently under .500. Not sure what some are honestly looking for in Allen as Head Coach. Not sure how much worse it can get. Essentially he's a P.E. teacher (solid DC) who's pretending to be a Chemistry or Math teacher & damn near everyone in the class is failing Good luck vs a pissed-off Philly team still playing for a 1st round bye & home-field advantage in the playoffs. "Dennis Allen was a lazy Saints HC hire." <<<FACT.
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12-29-2022, 11:10 AM	#60
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Observations from the Saints' win vs Browns Dennis Allen won two in a row. Unfortunately, that means he'll be sticking around. Maybe. Just maybe Dennis Allen will do better with an innovative offensive coordinator.