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K Major 02-02-2023 06:30 PM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 969028)
Guido you're right, I'm not going to participate in this injured player fetish anymore.

And you're exactly right brother Rell :bng:.

People also have the right to call out players & coaches as they wish on B&G. Gweedo the Narcissist doesn't have the power to tell others how they should act, think or feel either.

He's slowly running off too many nice people on this platform. I hope he hasn't run off TheOak (a highly respected poster here for many, many years). I simply don't understand why the mods allow his antics to continue.

This is a sports forum in which we all can debate right? It's not always rainbows and unicorns.

If there are people (myself included) here you don't like or don't wish to respond to, simply use the ignore button. It does wonders.

AsylumGuido 02-02-2023 06:40 PM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 969028)
Guido you're right, I'm not going to participate in this injured player fetish anymore.

Exactly, Rell. I've come to the realization that it's best to literally ignore their constant complaining and just try to concentrate on the Saints ongoing news rather than their fixations. Try the "Ignore" feature. You aren't the only one I have heard from that have gotten fed up with it. PM me if you need assistance in shutting them out.

:bng:

Rell&Gold 02-02-2023 08:42 PM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969029)
And you're exactly right brother Rell :bng:.

People also have the right to call out players & coaches as they wish on B&G. Gweedo the Narcissist doesn't have the power to tell others how they should act, think or feel either.

He's slowly running off too many nice people on this platform. I hope he hasn't run off TheOak (a highly respected poster here for many, many years). I simply don't understand why the mods allow his antics to continue.

This is a sports forum in which we all can debate right? It's not always rainbows and unicorns.

If there are people (myself included) here you don't like or don't wish to respond to, simply use the ignore button. It does wonders.

Major im all for LEGITIMATE debates with context not feelings. I don't want to debate your feelings there's no compromise or middle ground there. Objective opinions are welcomed for debate all day. Constantly speaking on players as if we know them their mindset or inside scoop to why MT didn't get his surgery or Marcus Davenport port not having any value equivalent to Zack Wilson is just asinine. I'm a football fan first. A fan being emotional over a injured player is just downright weird. They don't walk into the building and pick what injury they are going have for the season. But let some of these cheerleaders tell it MT sabotaged the Saints because he doesn't want to play. I'm going to call a hater a hater everyday all day.

jnormand 02-02-2023 09:28 PM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 969037)
Major im all for LEGITIMATE debates with context not feelings. I don't want to debate your feelings there's no compromise or middle ground there. Objective opinions are welcomed for debate all day. Constantly speaking on players as if we know them their mindset or inside scoop to why MT didn't get his surgery or Marcus Davenport port not having any value equivalent to Zack Wilson is just asinine. I'm a football fan first. A fan being emotional over a injured player is just downright weird. They don't walk into the building and pick what injury they are going have for the season. But let some of these cheerleaders tell it MT sabotaged the Saints because he doesn't want to play. I'm going to call a hater a hater everyday all day.

Rell I see what you’re saying. But some people get emotional when debating something. And to me there is nothing wrong with having hard feelings or frustration about a coach or player who hasn’t lived up to their draft status or position on the staff.

Thing is man, people get emotional about things that they’re passionate about. That’s just human. Try not to take it the wrong way if someone doesn’t like certain players or their track records. They’re just passionate and ultimately just want to see all the players and coaches and the team succeed.

And some just call it like they see it. There’s nothing wrong with that man.

And to me, passion is a feeling. If you’re debating something that you have absolutely no feeling about, you’re not gonna be very good at debating it. If you wanna get into a debate with me about paint drying, I’m gonna have a rough time with that. Because I don’t give a **** about it. Lol.

Rell&Gold 02-02-2023 09:52 PM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 969038)
Rell I see what you’re saying. But some people get emotional when debating something. And to me there is nothing wrong with having hard feelings or frustration about a coach or player who hasn’t lived up to their draft status or position on the staff.

Thing is man, people get emotional about things that they’re passionate about. That’s just human. Try not to take it the wrong way if someone doesn’t like certain players or their track records. They’re just passionate and ultimately just want to see all the players and coaches and the team succeed.

And some just call it like they see it. There’s nothing wrong with that man.

And to me, passion is a feeling. If you’re debating something that you have absolutely no feeling about, you’re not gonna be very good at debating it. If you wanna get into a debate with me about paint drying, I’m gonna have a rough time with that. Because I don’t give a **** about it. Lol.

I understand passion as a fan of a team. I get it I really do. Here's my example, Alvin had a "down year" this year statistically speaking some started calling for his head because he had a down year alot of it outside them fumbles were no fault of his own. Playcalling usage etc...play factors into players performance. Football "in essence" is 11 on 11. Your DB play effects your pass rush pass rush effect your db play. DT effect your LB play so on so forth so when some people isolate players without context and just regurgitate one meaningless statistic by itself. I'm going say something because THATS NOT FOOTBALL. Can't talk run game and not talk oline. My passion isn't going to supercede reality. Saints were 5th in sacks and people still felt like we needed a upgrade at pass rush. Why is that of guys herald sacks so much in the Saints were fifth in that category?

jnormand 02-02-2023 10:44 PM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 969039)
I understand passion as a fan of a team. I get it I really do. Here's my example, Alvin had a "down year" this year statistically speaking some started calling for his head because he had a down year alot of it outside them fumbles were no fault of his own. Playcalling usage etc...play factors into players performance. Football "in essence" is 11 on 11. Your DB play effects your pass rush pass rush effect your db play. DT effect your LB play so on so forth so when some people isolate players without context and just regurgitate one meaningless statistic by itself. I'm going say something because THATS NOT FOOTBALL. Can't talk run game and not talk oline. My passion isn't going to supercede reality. Saints were 5th in sacks and people still felt like we needed a upgrade at pass rush. Why is that of guys herald sacks so much in the Saints were fifth in that category?

Idk Rell. My only guess is that with 3 first round draft picks Cam, Davenport and Turner, they should have a better pass rush. Or maybe just with the talent we have there on the defensive line as a whole, they feel like there should’ve been more.

Hell with what we had for DBs I feel like there should’ve been more ints. I mean, the offense underperformed regardless of who was at QB imo. But some may say that Dalton wasn’t good enough and that was the problem. My opinion is that he was fine and did okay but our offense was just vanilla and didn’t seem to have very good plays. Everyone’s got an opinion man. Lol

AsylumGuido 02-03-2023 09:21 AM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 969037)
Major im all for LEGITIMATE debates with context not feelings. I don't want to debate your feelings there's no compromise or middle ground there. Objective opinions are welcomed for debate all day. Constantly speaking on players as if we know them their mindset or inside scoop to why MT didn't get his surgery or Marcus Davenport port not having any value equivalent to Zack Wilson is just asinine. I'm a football fan first. A fan being emotional over a injured player is just downright weird. They don't walk into the building and pick what injury they are going have for the season. But let some of these cheerleaders tell it MT sabotaged the Saints because he doesn't want to play. I'm going to call a hater a hater everyday all day.

Well put, Rell. Passion is one of the things that make us "fans" or fanatics. And passionate debates are part of it. I believe what you are also trying to convey is that making every other (or more) post here the same passionate criticism of a certain player or coach or GM gets tiresome. Am I right here, Rell? Every subject turns into an attack on Michael Thomas, or Davenport, or Dennis Allen, or Sean Payton, Or Mickey Loomis. We get it. You hate these guys. Fine. But can we sometimes just talk Saints football without it constantly turning into the same old hate fest?

K Major 02-03-2023 09:48 AM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Posters can post within the guidelines and rules set forth by B&G.

This is a sports fan forum and no individual can dictate what they can and cannot say or feel because they "don't want to hear it".

And we all know who I'm referring to ... I'll leave it at that.

Saintsfan warned us.

K Major 02-03-2023 10:10 AM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Back on topic ...

If Davenport leaves in Free agency, so be it. One less player we have to see on the weekly injury reports.

I'd rather the Saints focus on the DT position. Other than David Onyemata and Cam, everyone else is replaceable in my opinion. Upgrades are needed and necessary.

SmashMouth 02-03-2023 12:30 PM

Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 969055)
Back on topic ...

If Davenport leaves in Free agency, so be it. One less player we have to see on the weekly injury reports.

I'd rather the Saints focus on the DT position. Other than David Onyemata and Cam, everyone else is replaceable in my opinion. Upgrades are needed and necessary.

... although Granderson is coming around.


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