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K Major 01-30-2023 11:31 AM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
All I know is that the New Orleans Saints are one of the oldest teams in the NFL & having cap "concerns".

Unable to keep Latavius vs Ingram & then the Ceedy trade :rolleyes:. Notice how Philly was able to use him EFFECTIVELY at safety. Instead of paying Marcus Williams (his range is elite), they went with the HB & injury-prone Marcus Maye.

The O line has regressed & poor (Throckmorton/Hurst) DEPTH.

Cam Jordan & Demario are another year older & guys like Davenport/Turner are brittle. Not even sure if Tanoh or MD walk in Free Agency.

Realistically, this team needs a LOT (starting with coaches) if they ever want to truly compete for a Lombardi again. Oh, did I mention we have no quarterback?? Watching the title games over the weekend, you either must have an ELITE QB or a sound defensive front with forward-thinking coaches to make it to the big boy bowl.

IMO they are 3, or 4 years away from competing :bng: ...

AsylumGuido 01-30-2023 11:48 AM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 968603)
Tampa Bay says hello from one of their SB trophies.
Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.

halloween 65 01-30-2023 04:02 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968612)
Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.
He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.

Sinner 01-30-2023 04:11 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968612)
Yup. They won that with Coach Dungy's players. Three of the next four years under Gruden they had a losing record winning only four and five games in two of those years. I'm sure you remember that stretch, right? Had they not moved on from Dungy and thrown away two 1st rounders AND two 2nd rounders they might have won multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Hello? Yes, hello to immediately becoming the doormat of the NFC South.
That doormat used us as a doormat twice this season... and stepped further into the post-season than we did. Hello.

K Major 01-30-2023 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 968631)
Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.
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AsylumGuido 01-30-2023 04:41 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 968631)
He!! we throw away first round picks every draft, no difference really. Throwing those 2fers away has cost us quality depth and players that could be good in rotation, not to mention actual starters on the front lines. So if u think Tampa and those picks cost them how come u think different on the Saints? It's like a slow death either way. Tampa just died quicker!! Of course we might have a quick one coming up this season.
What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.

halloween 65 01-30-2023 05:43 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968639)
What does any of that have to do with a team being unwilling to give up two 1st round picks for Payton? You lost me there.
You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden

AsylumGuido 01-30-2023 06:12 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 968642)
You never said for Payton, you said Dungy and Gruden
The Gruden deal was the basis for the argument that Payton was worth two 1st's. That's what I was addressing. I can't see any team making that same mistake that the Bucs made in that dumb trade to get Gruden.

Rell&Gold 01-30-2023 11:08 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 968089)
Looking at the Bengals today, notice how well the O line (injured throughout 2022) have been protecting Joe Cool.

Injuries happen to ALL teams but GOOD DEPTH is key.

Saints need to observe and implement.
He had zero sacks and 1 tackle sounds like trey destroying LTs left and right

Rell&Gold 01-30-2023 11:09 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 968077)
Trey Hendrickson again showing up in the playoffs.

Davenport should watch some of Trey's tape.
Where did he show up ? He literally didn't make a play or it only matters when ita Davenport?


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