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K Major 12-27-2022 11:21 AM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by leilung (Post 966160)
I know some people have defended Loomis and his 'kick the can' method of cap management, but that's the problem with stealing from Peter to pay Paul...

Sooner or later, you end up with a sore Peter!
This is true my friend.

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SmashMouth 12-27-2022 11:32 AM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 966161)
I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.
Actually not a bad comparison , come to think of it ...except Davenport has cost more in terms of draft picks, pinky or no pinky .

halloween 65 12-27-2022 04:46 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 966161)
I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.
I would extend him. For how long I'm not sure but not on a 4 yr.

gulfgambler 12-27-2022 05:27 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Cut bait
Only plays 1/2 to 3/4 of games each year
When he's "healthy" rarely lives up to the hype
Cost 2 no.1 picks, dudes stealing money

K Major 12-27-2022 05:54 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.

BakoSaint 12-28-2022 02:35 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 966177)
Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.
Kind of like how its less expensive to put a $250 downpayment on a $2000 tv than to buy a $400 tv in cash. Less expensive using Loomis’ short term logic, more expensive in reality in the long term. Loomis will always put dead money at the end of deals but we can’t just extend all our bad contracts forever.

Rugby Saint II 12-28-2022 02:41 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell.

saintsfan1976 12-28-2022 05:47 PM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 966221)
I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell.
'23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB)

You really think that's in our best interest?

Rugby Saint II 12-29-2022 10:43 AM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 966231)
'23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB)

You really think that's in our best interest?
Well, not now I don't!

K Major 01-09-2023 09:01 AM
Re: Marcus Davenport
 
What happened to Davenport in 2022?

0.5 sacks & 0 FFs. Wow!

Stats


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