Marcus Davenport
 

As this is his last year, do you sign him? How do you handle or not handle his new contract? Do the Saints really have a choice?

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Wasn't impressed in a contract year.

He's averaged 12 games played per season.

Do you think he's worth $20MM per year? That's what his market is.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Neaux... that's the whole point. Will he take less, or is another team willing to pay him that? IMHO, if another team steps up, we let him walk and we get the compensatory pick later.

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Try out the market and see what we can get for him. But I wouldn't let him go on that last year. He's going to have to have a prove it season to get top dollar on the Saints, or anywhere else.

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If he leaves we're paying him two more seasons I think

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You're not wrong.

That is an illustration of how the cap has been managed. If we pay him, his number increases. So, is it worth it?

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The fact they let players walk with more productivity than Davenport makes me say they shouldn't keep him, but they likely will anyway.

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Loomis is such a cap genius though. He'll figure it out. Everybody is doing contracts like that now!




:annoy:

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

I know some people have defended Loomis and his 'kick the can' method of cap management, but that's the problem with stealing from Peter to pay Paul...

Sooner or later, you end up with a sore Peter!

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

I would offer him $4.5-6mil/yr. Thats what his production and availability is worth. If he gets a lot more I hope and pray its a division rival who is the sucker. Andrus Peat 2.0 on defense.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

This is true my friend.

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Actually not a bad comparison , come to think of it ...except Davenport has cost more in terms of draft picks, pinky or no pinky .

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I would extend him. For how long I'm not sure but not on a 4 yr.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Cut bait
Only plays 1/2 to 3/4 of games each year
When he's "healthy" rarely lives up to the hype
Cost 2 no.1 picks, dudes stealing money

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Hmm.

I'd bring MD back for 2023. His sack totals aren't higher, but among other things, his pressure rate is on par with 2021.

The coverage and safety play were below average compared to a year ago. The former has gotten better in recent weeks, but losing Latt has hurt a lot, and I believe that's why the number of defensive line sacks has decreased.

It would be less expensive (see post #5) to bring him back for a year.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Kind of like how its less expensive to put a $250 downpayment on a $2000 tv than to buy a $400 tv in cash. Less expensive using Loomis’ short term logic, more expensive in reality in the long term. Loomis will always put dead money at the end of deals but we can’t just extend all our bad contracts forever.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

I'd like to put the franchise tag on Marcus Davenport for 2023. Maybe he'll have a healthy year where he produces and finally lives up to his potential. Otherwise, we can let him walk and get the compensatory pick. I believe that that is where he gives us our most value. I really thought we were going to start playing the compensatory game now but it looks like we're just going to keep extending these guys and plunging into further cap hell.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

'23 Franchise Tag for DE: $20,167,000 (second only behind QB)

You really think that's in our best interest?

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Well, not now I don't!

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What happened to Davenport in 2022?

0.5 sacks & 0 FFs. Wow!

Stats

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

No new contract, except league min.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Cut bait or cut earnings.

Has the physical gifts without the mental fortitude to advance them

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

All of this.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

2 first round picks to draft him, that's the production he gives.

We let Hendrickson walk and kept Davenport, when Hendrickson was easily the better player.

What a waste.

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Definitely a head-scratcher in hindsight...

Seems like we work so hard to unearth these late round gems then allow them to walk too soon.

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Man, what can I say? All of this negative is accurate.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Not intending to be negative. It feels like we're all realizing the issues some weren't a reality, in fact are

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Is it negative to be accurate, though? :bng:

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Speaking of DEs, Payton Turner has been a huge disappointment in New Orleans.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Davenport has not looked in game shape all season. Can’t remember if it was Darnold or the RB that got the edge on Marcus. The man looks Fat and Slow.
Cam was making Darnold run parallel to the line all game, then throwing incompletions out of bounds.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Payton balls when he plays. But he barely plays. He was having a monster of a game the last time I saw him. Then gets injured after he makes an excellent play.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Saints whining because they don't have a double digit sack leader boo-hoo. They were 5th in sacks somethings working. Pass coverage and interior dline play took the biggest hit which all effect the pass rush. Just like all ints aren't players making a play on the ball all sacks aren't a guy just dominating their man in front of them. But let you guys tell it he did nothing. Same guys screaming Payton needs to leave same guys screamed to not resign Marcus Williams same guys fell in love with Adebo after that avg rookie season. Same guys who are ok with trading up for olave and he drops critical passes. Same guys screaming trade AK Demario and Cam. Marcus Davenport injuries have held him back no question the guy can play though if not wi5h the Saints someone else will sign him. Wish him the best. Trey Hendrickson can't stop the run that's why they didn't pay him he's a 3 down DE who CANT maintain the edge and couldn't get one of those lovely sacks against James Hurst...not impressed

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

I want to like Davenport. He is an absolute physical freak but his production doesn't mirror that. If we were to resign him it should be for a contrac matching his production not his potential because that is something we might never see.

He is however a guy that could easily go to another team, stay healthy and have 17 sacks in a year. That is the gamble here.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

I was so impressed with Marcus Davenport's physicality that I told everyone we would forget about the two number one draft picks. Well, I was wrong and I'm eating crow. I'd rather have roasted falcon.

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Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Still scratching my head how they kept Davenport and let Hendrickson walk...

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

I would low ball Davenport on a contract and add incentives. He knows he hasn't set the world on fire

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Yeah that would probably be my strategy too. He needs to produce to get paid or just get out and let somebody hungrier take his place.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

The fact that Carl Granderson consistently outperforms Davenport, just like Hendrickson did, speaks volumes.

Re: Marcus Davenport
 

Another undrafted free agent producing volumes for the New Orleans Saints. When you throw away draft picks like we do you definitely need to hit on those undrafted free agents.