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AsylumGuido 03-27-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 972024)
Are you going to report your own post for calling people simple minded though?

Just curious.



Anyways, it's not simple minded to be concerned about how we operate. It's all about the circumstance that we're in. Now that we have a legitimate quarterback, "kicking the can" is just fine since we're competing and the cap going up year to year. Now if Dalton or Winston was the starting quarterback for the next couple of seasons, what we're doing doesn't as much sense. The key is being able to see both sides of the argument which some refuse to acknowledge. There's merit to both sides.

The success of the methodology being used by the Saints for the last decade plus depends upon it's being continued as long as the cap continues to skyrocket. To suddenly abandon the philosophy defeats that purpose. That is the simple-mindedness of the Twitter users to which Saunders was addressing in his post and of which I was agreeing.

Yes, there could be merit to both approaches but not when you consider dumping one approach for another in midstream. Correct?

AsylumGuido 03-27-2023 10:52 AM

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My criticism of the critiques of social media hacks of the Saints off-season free agent moves is because almost all of them are basing their stance not upon the quality of the moves themselves, but because the Saints management refused to dump players to go into a virtual tank situation and instead choosing to remain competitive moving forward. That is simple-minded on a Dr. Seussian scale as implied in the Twitter post that I posted.

AsylumGuido 03-27-2023 11:28 AM

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rezburna 03-27-2023 11:33 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 972039)
My criticism of the critiques of social media hacks of the Saints off-season free agent moves is because almost all of them are basing their stance not upon the quality of the moves themselves, but because the Saints management refused to dump players to go into a virtual tank situation instead of choosing to remain competitive moving forward. That is simple-minded on a Dr. Seussian scale as implied in the Twitter post that I posted.

I agree with this 100%. The Saints aren’t being judged by the moves they made, but instead by the idea that they should tank because they aren't a "true contender" in the eyes of the media. Prior to that everybody said we needed a QB. We got a 4x Pro Bowler. They said we needed help at RB. We picked up Jamal Williams, league leader in TD's last year. We retained an All-Pro WR. We let a bust walk at DE. We've added depth and competition at Safety. Our interior defensive line got bigger and stronger. It's ridiculous.

Rugby Saint II 03-27-2023 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 972031)
He should be upset... it's cost him a lot of $. And it's cost the Saint an extra number 1 pick.

He's not the only one who's upset! :argue:

I was wrong about Davenport, who I said would make us forget about spending two first round draft picks on a developmental pick. I thought we'd be getting a dominant stud and not a highly questionable draft pick who was an impact player when available. He was never available though.

K Major 03-27-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 971943)
I've never seen Trequan make a contested td catch like this before.

Not to mention he's a YOUNGER (24) GUY. Yes, let's bring him in.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1345867345877561345

https://twitter.com/i/status/1460082705555615744

The Saints are signing WR Bryan Edwards.

Source - Ian Rapoport of NFL Media.

Trequan days are probably numbered.

K Major 03-27-2023 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 972046)
I agree with this 100%. We retained an All-Pro WR. We let a bust walk at DE. We've added depth and .

I would question those on staff who thought Davenport would perform better @ 275 vs 265. He looked totally different in 2022. No burst.

If you hadn't noticed, Payton Turner is BIGGER (heavier) than his original weight as a rookie as well.

rezburna 03-27-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 972073)
I would question those on staff who thought Davenport would perform better @ 275 vs 265. He looked totally different in 2022. No burst.

If you hadn't noticed, Payton Turner is BIGGER (heavier) than his original weight as a rookie as well.

They love big DE's man. I don't get it.

Boston Saint 03-27-2023 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 972076)
They love big DE's man. I don't get it.

I love big DEs too…as long as they’re quick as hell! 😝

SmashMouth 03-27-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 972061)
The Saints are signing WR Bryan Edwards.

Source - Ian Rapoport of NFL Media.

Trequan days are probably numbered.

ONOZZ.... What will TreQ do?


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