New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com

New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com (https://blackandgold.com/community/)
-   Saints (https://blackandgold.com/saints/)
-   -   Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread (https://blackandgold.com/saints/102576-official-2023-offseason-thread.html)

K Major 05-01-2023 10:49 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Hadn't seen it posted but the Saints have declined Ruiz's 5th-year option.

Former 1st rounders gotta show more than one "improved" season.

I'm not at all surprised by the Saint's front office.

Story

AsylumGuido 05-01-2023 11:29 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 

It appears only ten of the 32 5th year options from the 2020 draft has been exercised. Other teams have until 4:00 eastern, i think, to make their declarations.

2020 pickNameTeamPOS5th yr optionExercisedNot exercised
1Joe BurrowBengalsQB$29,504,000X 
2Chase YoungCommandersEDGE (DE)$17,452,000 X
3Jeff OkudahLionsCB$14,362,000  
4Andrew ThomasGiantsLT (OL)$21,172,000  
5Tua TagovailoaDolphinsQB$25,382,000X 
6Justin HerbertChargersQB$29,504,000X 
7Derrick BrownPanthersIDL (DT)$13,192,000X 
8Isaiah SimmonsCardinalsLB$11,369,000  
9C.J. HendersonPanthersCB$14,362,000  
10Jedrick WillsBrownsLT (OL)$21,172,000X 
11Mekhi BectonJetsRT (OL)$20,239,000  
13Tristan WirfsBuccaneersRT (OL)$18,244,000X 
14Javon Kinlaw49ersIDL (DT)$12,245,000 X
15Jerry JeudyBroncosWR$19,071,000  
16A.J. TerrellFalconsCB$15,724,000X 
17CeeDee LambCowboysWR$17,991,000X 
18Austin JacksonDolphinsRT (OL)$21,172,000  
20K'Lavon ChaissonJaguarsEDGE (DE)$7,114,000  
21Jalen ReagorVikingsWR$19,071,000 X
22Justin JeffersonVikingsWR$19,743,000X 
23Kenneth MurrayChargersLB$9,954,000 X
24Cesar RuizSaintsRG (OL)$21,172,000 X
25Brandon Aiyuk49ersWR$20,639,000X 
26Jordan LovePackersQB$21,770,000  
27Jordyn BrooksSeahawksLB$11,369,000  
28Patrick QueenRavensLB$11,369,000  
30Noah IgbinogheneDolphinsCB$14,362,000  
32Clyde Edwards-HelaireChiefsRB$7,525,000  

AsylumGuido 05-01-2023 11:32 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Regardless of how well Ruiz is currently playing, $14 to $21 million is pretty steep for 2024. They should be able to extend him for a more reasonable number.

SmashMouth 05-01-2023 11:39 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 973651)
Hadn't seen it posted but the Saints have declined Ruiz's 5th-year option.

Former 1st rounders gotta show more than one "improved" season.

I'm not at all surprised by the Saint's front office.

Story

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973652)
https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...68084888969216

It appears only ten of the 32 5th year options from the 2020 draft has been exercised. Other teams have until 4:00 eastern, i think, to make their declarations.

2020 pickNameTeamPOS5th yr optionExercisedNot exercised
1Joe BurrowBengalsQB$29,504,000X 
2Chase YoungCommandersEDGE (DE)$17,452,000 X
3Jeff OkudahLionsCB$14,362,000  
4Andrew ThomasGiantsLT (OL)$21,172,000  
5Tua TagovailoaDolphinsQB$25,382,000X 
6Justin HerbertChargersQB$29,504,000X 
7Derrick BrownPanthersIDL (DT)$13,192,000X 
8Isaiah SimmonsCardinalsLB$11,369,000  
9C.J. HendersonPanthersCB$14,362,000  
10Jedrick WillsBrownsLT (OL)$21,172,000X 
11Mekhi BectonJetsRT (OL)$20,239,000  
13Tristan WirfsBuccaneersRT (OL)$18,244,000X 
14Javon Kinlaw49ersIDL (DT)$12,245,000 X
15Jerry JeudyBroncosWR$19,071,000  
16A.J. TerrellFalconsCB$15,724,000X 
17CeeDee LambCowboysWR$17,991,000X 
18Austin JacksonDolphinsRT (OL)$21,172,000  
20K'Lavon ChaissonJaguarsEDGE (DE)$7,114,000  
21Jalen ReagorVikingsWR$19,071,000 X
22Justin JeffersonVikingsWR$19,743,000X 
23Kenneth MurrayChargersLB$9,954,000 X
24Cesar RuizSaintsRG (OL)$21,172,000 X
25Brandon Aiyuk49ersWR$20,639,000X 
26Jordan LovePackersQB$21,770,000  
27Jordyn BrooksSeahawksLB$11,369,000  
28Patrick QueenRavensLB$11,369,000  
30Noah IgbinogheneDolphinsCB$14,362,000  
32Clyde Edwards-HelaireChiefsRB$7,525,000  

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973653)
Regardless of how well Ruiz is currently playing, $21 million is pretty steep for 2024. They should be able to extend him for a more reasonable number.

And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.

AsylumGuido 05-01-2023 11:49 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973655)
And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.

Actually, the newer revenue sources are not required to keep up with the demands of the salary cap. It's the other way around. The salary cap is directly tied to the league revenue. As the revenues increase it is mandated by the CBA that the salary cap (ie. player salaries) must increase by the same percentage. The latest broadcast contracts have ensured that the revenue growth (and the corresponding salary cap) will continue at the same mercurial pace for the next decade, at the very least.

AsylumGuido 05-01-2023 11:51 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
You can add Patrick Queen to the growing list of those not getting the option year.


K Major 05-01-2023 11:58 AM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 973655)
And there you have it ... The growing trend across the league on 5th year options and 2nd contracts. It makes the draft ever more incrementally important. While the NFL attempts to unearth new and newer revenue sources to keep up with the demands of the salary cap, at some point the goose that lays the golden eggs will curtail her production. Absurd money is getting even more absurd. It's unsustainable long-term.

Bottom line is that top coin is reserved for players that consistently put in the work. Ruiz is nowhere near that category.

The price tag of the 5th-year option is reserved for top-tier players.

14M? Hell naw.

AsylumGuido 05-01-2023 12:03 PM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 973656)
Actually, the newer revenue sources are not required to keep up with the demands of the salary cap. It's the other way around. The salary cap is directly tied to the league revenue. As the revenues increase it is mandated by the CBA that the salary cap (ie. player salaries) must increase by the same percentage. The latest broadcast contracts have ensured that the revenue growth (and the corresponding salary cap) will continue at the same mercurial pace for the next decade, at the very least.

In other words, when revenues increase by 10% from one year to another the mandated player salaries must increase by the same percentage. But note, the owner's portion of the revenues also increases by the same percentage. The CBA states that players share of the revenues are 48.8% meaning that the owners get 51.2%. Therefore, when the player's salaries increase the owner's portion of the revenues increase by an even greater amount. No matter how high player salaries climb the league will continues to make even greater profits.

AsylumGuido 05-01-2023 01:51 PM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 

AsylumGuido 05-01-2023 01:57 PM

Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread
 


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:56 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com