Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread

K Major · 02-27-2023, 09:56 AM

Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE

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Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen.

Rugby Saint II · 02-27-2023, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE .

Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen.

Yes it would. But that may not be the only thing that makes Dennis Allen look terrible. Have you checked out his play calling?

AsylumGuido · 02-27-2023, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Yes it would. But that may not be the only thing that makes Dennis Allen look terrible. Have you checked out his play calling?

His playcalling had the Saints as the #5 ranked defense (total yards allowed) in the NFL last season. That's pretty darned good.

iceshack149 · 02-27-2023, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE .

Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen.

The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen.
That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints.

K Major · 02-27-2023, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen.
That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints.

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

iceshack149 · 02-27-2023, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

I agree. You'd think for a year as important as the last year on his contract he'd perform at a higher level.

Rell&Gold · 02-27-2023, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

K Major · 02-27-2023, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

Unfortunately, that's not saying a whole lot on Sundays.

The Saints were dead last in pass rush win rate for 2022.

02-27-2023, 09:56 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE . Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen.

02-27-2023, 10:51 AM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE . Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen. Yes it would. But that may not be the only thing that makes Dennis Allen look terrible. Have you checked out his play calling?

02-27-2023, 01:02 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Yes it would. But that may not be the only thing that makes Dennis Allen look terrible. Have you checked out his play calling? His playcalling had the Saints as the #5 ranked defense (total yards allowed) in the NFL last season. That's pretty darned good.

02-27-2023, 10:59 AM	#4
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,426 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE . Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen. The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen. That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints.

02-27-2023, 12:17 PM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,426 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me. I agree. You'd think for a year as important as the last year on his contract he'd perform at a higher level.

02-27-2023, 11:10 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by iceshack149 The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen. That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints. I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

02-27-2023, 12:22 PM	#7
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me. Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

02-27-2023, 12:47 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints. Unfortunately, that's not saying a whole lot on Sundays. The Saints were dead last in pass rush win rate for 2022.