You dodge, and dodge with no response. You repeat, and repeat, and repeat your complaints, your griping, your moaning. I had a brief conversation with a usually very active member very recently that has chosen to avoid the forum because of the constant negativity, complaining, and "repeating" of how much the Saints suck by a small handful of members.

If you think you can do something constructive to improve the Saints have at it. It is becoming clearer and clearer, however, that you know there is nothing that YOU can do to accomplish that goal.