This team is really bad

hitta · 01-09-2023, 09:11 AM

This team isn't that bad. We've had injuries. We have no QB. I'm not sure what people expected. You stick in a good QB at the head of our team and we're in the playoffs easily.

saintsfan1976 · 01-09-2023, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

This team isn't that bad. We've had injuries. We have no QB. I'm not sure what people expected. You stick in a good QB at the head of our team and we're in the playoffs easily.

Elements of the "team" i.e. "coaches" do need to change however. Payton leaving revealed many shortcomings.

Sinner · 01-09-2023, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

This team isn't that bad. We've had injuries. We have no QB. I'm not sure what people expected. You stick in a good QB at the head of our team and we're in the playoffs easily.

So stick Darnold in at the head of our team, and we're in the playoffs?

K Major · 01-09-2023, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

This team isn't that bad. We've had injuries. We have no QB. I'm not sure what people expected. You stick in a good QB at the head of our team and we're in the playoffs easily.

I find it interesting you didn't mention coaches in your assessment.

What "good" QB would want to come and play in this terrible system? Even if you get a solid QB in the draft, they won't progress under this regime.

S Darnold beat us with a 2.9 QBR rating yesterday

It starts at the top.

Rugby Saint II · 01-15-2023, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I find it interesting you didn't mention coaches in your assessment.

What "good" QB would want to come and play in this terrible system? Even if you get a solid QB in the draft, they won't progress under this regime.

S Darnold beat us with a 2.9 QBR rating yesterday

It starts at the top.

I think a lot of it boils down to the inordinate amount of injuries that we suffer year in and year out. That alone can make or break a season. It did it last year and it's done it again this year. Not to mention that we have a plethora of coaches who were in over their head.

AsylumGuido · 01-16-2023, 10:59 AM

K Major · 01-16-2023, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I think a lot of it boils down to the inordinate amount of injuries that we suffer year in and year out. That alone can make or break a season. It did it last year and it's done it again this year. Not to mention that we have a plethora of coaches who were in over their head.

Rugs,

At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down.

The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB.

Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively.

Coaching is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now.

2023 could be rough.

Sinner · 01-16-2023, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Rugs,

At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down.

The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB.

Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively.

Coaching is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now.

2023 could be rough.

100% THIS ^^^

Rugby Saint II · 01-16-2023, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Rugs,

At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down.

The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB.

Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively.

Coaching is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now.

2023 could be rough.

I totally agree that we cannot blame the season on injuries but could possibly blame it on the coaching. We absolutely need better depth. That may be a consequence of trading picks to move up for a valued player. We have to have some major coaching changes this offseason. Shake things up. We've done well bringing in good college coaches so let's look there again.

AsylumGuido · 01-16-2023, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Rugs,

At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down.

The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB.

Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively.

Coaching is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now.

2023 could be rough.

True that the Niners lost Jimmy G, but for the most part the rest of their offense was pretty well intact AND they added Christian McCaffrey just as they started their run. The Niners are good but they didn't face anywhere near the deep run on injuries that the Saints faced. Just look at the defending Super Bowl Champion, Rams, who finished far worse than the Saints. Injuries destroyed their season, as well.

I understand not placing all of the blame on injuries, but it is just as shortsighted to ignore injuries as a major factor in the team's struggles.

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01-09-2023, 09:39 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by hitta This team isn't that bad. We've had injuries. We have no QB. I'm not sure what people expected. You stick in a good QB at the head of our team and we're in the playoffs easily. Elements of the "team" i.e. "coaches" do need to change however. Payton leaving revealed many shortcomings. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by hitta This team isn't that bad. We've had injuries. We have no QB. I'm not sure what people expected. You stick in a good QB at the head of our team and we're in the playoffs easily. So stick Darnold in at the head of our team, and we're in the playoffs?
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by hitta This team isn't that bad. We've had injuries. We have no QB. I'm not sure what people expected. You stick in a good QB at the head of our team and we're in the playoffs easily. I find it interesting you didn't mention coaches in your assessment. What "good" QB would want to come and play in this terrible system? Even if you get a solid QB in the draft, they won't progress under this regime. S Darnold beat us with a 2.9 QBR rating yesterday It starts at the top. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by K Major I find it interesting you didn't mention coaches in your assessment. What "good" QB would want to come and play in this terrible system? Even if you get a solid QB in the draft, they won't progress under this regime. S Darnold beat us with a 2.9 QBR rating yesterday It starts at the top. I think a lot of it boils down to the inordinate amount of injuries that we suffer year in and year out. That alone can make or break a season. It did it last year and it's done it again this year. Not to mention that we have a plethora of coaches who were in over their head.

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01-16-2023, 11:39 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I think a lot of it boils down to the inordinate amount of injuries that we suffer year in and year out. That alone can make or break a season. It did it last year and it's done it again this year. Not to mention that we have a plethora of coaches who were in over their head. Rugs, At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down. The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB. Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively. *Coaching* is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now. 2023 could be rough. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by K Major Rugs, At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down. The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB. Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively. *Coaching* is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now. 2023 could be rough. 100% THIS ^^^
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01-16-2023, 12:26 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by K Major Rugs, At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down. The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB. Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively. *Coaching* is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now. 2023 could be rough. I totally agree that we cannot blame the season on injuries but could possibly blame it on the coaching. We absolutely need better depth. That may be a consequence of trading picks to move up for a valued player. We have to have some major coaching changes this offseason. Shake things up. We've done well bringing in good college coaches so let's look there again. Sinner and BakoSaint like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: This team is really bad Originally Posted by K Major Rugs, At some point, you have to look elsewhere with the injury bug excuse on why the Saints are failing on Sundays. Find better depth. The good teams have no issues inserting guys when a starter goes down. The Ravens and Dolphins got to the postseason with backups at QB. Have you seen Brock Purdy play yet ? The Niners lost Jimmy G in early December and haven't missed a beat offensively. *Coaching* is the biggest question mark in New Orleans right now. 2023 could be rough. True that the Niners lost Jimmy G, but for the most part the rest of their offense was pretty well intact AND they added Christian McCaffrey just as they started their run. The Niners are good but they didn't face anywhere near the deep run on injuries that the Saints faced. Just look at the defending Super Bowl Champion, Rams, who finished far worse than the Saints. Injuries destroyed their season, as well. I understand not placing all of the blame on injuries, but it is just as shortsighted to ignore injuries as a major factor in the team's struggles. saintsfan1976 likes this.
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