Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton

Mr.Riaton · 01-17-2023, 10:54 AM

Went look at the Texans picks and it would be nice to get their first(12th overall) and second this year or first(12th overall) and third this year with a second next year. I absolutely think Payton is worth that much, especially if they grab a top tier QB with that second overall pick. Not to mention, if I’m reading that right, looks like they have $47 million to play with this off season. He’ll make that team relevant quick

AsylumGuido · 01-17-2023, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

That's absolutely a deal you take.

No kidding. That's basically the type of deal that has been floating out there. A 1st and some other picks to bring a balance. For Denver it would be a late 2023 1st so the other picks would be less of the total equation. Carolina's 1st would be a mid-range 1st so the other picks would be even that much less, but in total about the same.

AsylumGuido · 01-17-2023, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Went look at the Texans picks and it would be nice to get their first(12th overall) and second this year or first(12th overall) and third this year with a second next year. I absolutely think Payton is worth that much, especially if they grab a top tier QB with that second pick. Not to mention, if I’m reading that right, looks like they have $47 million to play with this off season. He’ll make that team relevant quick

Yes. I believe that the kind of deal the Saints are expecting. Not the two or three 1st rounders that some fans were unrealistically expecting.

AsylumGuido · 01-17-2023, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by papz

The misconception here is that there are folks who feel as if a lot of fans believe we are going to get a Jon Gruden type package in return. We're not. Most logical fans know that just because the Raiders did something crazy, doesn't mean that it's going to happen here. The narrative for "the Saints have little to no leverage" is a bunch of horse**** and just an excuse if Loomis botches this thing.

Now while my opinions on Loomis haven't been favorable, his future here depends on this and I do not believe he will screw this up. Hopefully all of this will get wrapped up soon and we can look toward the future.

Tell me, please, exactly what leverage do you believe the Saints have beyond simply refusing the transfer of his rights? That gets them literally nothing in return. They cannot play one suitor against another because Payton is the one that gets to choose where he wants to go. The Saints literally have little to no leverage. Payton carries by far the most leverage, followed closely by the individual team of his choice. The Saints pull up the rear in the leverage race by a good margin.

SmashMouth · 01-17-2023, 01:03 PM

Sinner · 01-17-2023, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by papz

The misconception here is that there are folks who feel as if a lot of fans believe we are going to get a Jon Gruden type package in return. We're not. Most logical fans know that just because the Raiders did something crazy, doesn't mean that it's going to happen here. The narrative for "the Saints have little to no leverage" is a bunch of horse**** and just an excuse if Loomis botches this thing.

Now while my opinions on Loomis haven't been favorable, his future here depends on this and I do not believe he will screw this up. Hopefully all of this will get wrapped up soon and we can look toward the future.

"the Saints have little to no leverage" fits perfectly with "the Saints suffer from too many fumbles and false starts" and "the Saints have been decimated with injuries" and "the Saints couldn't have possibly prepared to secure a Championship-Caliber Quarterback, while Drew was in decline" or "the Saints couldn't have possibly invested $60 million in something beyond turf toe" or whatever sorry excuse some fans come upon with to give dismal ownership and (mis)management of a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM a pass.

AsylumGuido · 01-17-2023, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

"the Saints have little to no leverage" fits perfectly with "the Saints suffer from too many fumbles and false starts" and "the Saints have been decimated with injuries" and "the Saints couldn't have possibly prepared to secure a Championship-Caliber Quarterback, while Drew was in decline" or "the Saints couldn't have possibly invested $60 million in something beyond turf toe" or whatever sorry excuse some fans come upon with to give dismal ownership and (mis)management of a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM a pass.

Is there a second verse to this same old song?

Sinner · 01-17-2023, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Is there a second verse to this same old song?

Yes. SAM FREAKING DARNOLD. LOL

AsylumGuido · 01-17-2023, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Yes. SAM FREAKING DARNOLD. LOL

900

Sinner · 01-17-2023, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

900

903: Tom Brady (did you see him last night?) x 2

01-17-2023, 10:54 AM	#111
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Went look at the Texans picks and it would be nice to get their first(12th overall) and second this year or first(12th overall) and third this year with a second next year. I absolutely think Payton is worth that much, especially if they grab a top tier QB with that second overall pick. Not to mention, if I’m reading that right, looks like they have $47 million to play with this off season. He’ll make that team relevant quick AsylumGuido and halloween 65 like this.

01-17-2023, 10:55 AM	#112
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 That's absolutely a deal you take. No kidding. That's basically the type of deal that has been floating out there. A 1st and some other picks to bring a balance. For Denver it would be a late 2023 1st so the other picks would be less of the total equation. Carolina's 1st would be a mid-range 1st so the other picks would be even that much less, but in total about the same.

01-17-2023, 10:57 AM	#113
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Went look at the Texans picks and it would be nice to get their first(12th overall) and second this year or first(12th overall) and third this year with a second next year. I absolutely think Payton is worth that much, especially if they grab a top tier QB with that second pick. Not to mention, if I’m reading that right, looks like they have $47 million to play with this off season. He’ll make that team relevant quick Yes. I believe that the kind of deal the Saints are expecting. Not the two or three 1st rounders that some fans were unrealistically expecting.

01-17-2023, 12:40 PM	#114
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by papz The misconception here is that there are folks who feel as if a lot of fans believe we are going to get a Jon Gruden type package in return. We're not. Most logical fans know that just because the Raiders did something crazy, doesn't mean that it's going to happen here. The narrative for "the Saints have little to no leverage" is a bunch of horse**** and just an excuse if Loomis botches this thing. Now while my opinions on Loomis haven't been favorable, his future here depends on this and I do not believe he will screw this up. Hopefully all of this will get wrapped up soon and we can look toward the future. Tell me, please, exactly what leverage do you believe the Saints have beyond simply refusing the transfer of his rights? That gets them literally nothing in return. They cannot play one suitor against another because Payton is the one that gets to choose where he wants to go. The Saints literally have little to no leverage. Payton carries by far the most leverage, followed closely by the individual team of his choice. The Saints pull up the rear in the leverage race by a good margin.

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01-17-2023, 01:05 PM	#116
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by papz The misconception here is that there are folks who feel as if a lot of fans believe we are going to get a Jon Gruden type package in return. We're not. Most logical fans know that just because the Raiders did something crazy, doesn't mean that it's going to happen here. The narrative for "the Saints have little to no leverage" is a bunch of horse**** and just an excuse if Loomis botches this thing. Now while my opinions on Loomis haven't been favorable, his future here depends on this and I do not believe he will screw this up. Hopefully all of this will get wrapped up soon and we can look toward the future. "the Saints have little to no leverage" fits perfectly with "the Saints suffer from too many fumbles and false starts" and "the Saints have been decimated with injuries" and "the Saints couldn't have possibly prepared to secure a Championship-Caliber Quarterback, while Drew was in decline" or "the Saints couldn't have possibly invested $60 million in something beyond turf toe" or whatever sorry excuse some fans come upon with to give dismal ownership and (mis)management of a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM a pass.
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01-17-2023, 01:06 PM	#117
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by Sinner "the Saints have little to no leverage" fits perfectly with "the Saints suffer from too many fumbles and false starts" and "the Saints have been decimated with injuries" and "the Saints couldn't have possibly prepared to secure a Championship-Caliber Quarterback, while Drew was in decline" or "the Saints couldn't have possibly invested $60 million in something beyond turf toe" or whatever sorry excuse some fans come upon with to give dismal ownership and (mis)management of a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM a pass. Is there a second verse to this same old song?

01-17-2023, 01:16 PM	#118
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,875	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Is there a second verse to this same old song? Yes. SAM FREAKING DARNOLD. LOL
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