Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton

AsylumGuido · 01-28-2023, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Not that he didn't actually have that very same freedom here with the Saints ... Maybe other teams noticed and are unwilling to let him have free reign. We all see what shape SP left the Saints in. Loomis has to figure in some of what we see.

Perhaps he sees more than we think we see from afar. But, we are all experts in NFL management, so there's that.

Sinner · 01-28-2023, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Perhaps he sees more than we think we see from afar. But, we are all experts in NFL management, so there's that.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits." ~ Matthew 7:16

"Faith without works is dead." ~ James 2:14

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2023, 09:25 AM

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SmashMouth · 01-29-2023, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...00428379414528

Pay up, BABY!!!

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AsylumGuido · 01-29-2023, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Pay up, BABY!!!

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...34993349054464

I wish! But, nobody is going to give two first rounders. That would be beyond foolish. If you ran a franchise would you fork over your next two first rounders plus others for Payton instead of just signing some other head coach for draft compensation? Saints fans would freak out if the shoe was on the other foot.

halloween 65 · 01-29-2023, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I wish! But, nobody is going to give two first rounders. That would be beyond foolish. If you ran a franchise would you fork over your next two first rounders plus others for Payton instead of just signing some other head coach for draft compensation? Saints fans would freak out if the shoe was on the other foot.

Same thing as us giving 2 1st for players. Now are you freaking out on that? Draft compensation is draft compensation!! Still looking thru those rose colored glasses now?

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2023, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Same thing as us giving 2 1st for players. Now are you freaking out on that? Draft compensation is draft compensation!! Still looking thru those rose colored glasses now?

Trading up two lower value 1st's for a single equivalent value first to obtain a player that you feel is worth the value is not compensation. Apples and oranges, halloween.

Would you happily trade two 1sts and other picks for a coach? Honestly.

Oh, and I'm not freaking out either way. LOL!

halloween 65 · 01-29-2023, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Trading up two lower value 1st's for a single equivalent value first to obtain a player that you feel is worth the value is not compensation. Apples and oranges, halloween.

Would you happily trade two 1sts and other picks for a coach? Honestly.

Oh, and I'm not freaking out either way. LOL!

Absolutely, if I thought he was going to build my team up to compete for a SB.And have those players you compare apples and oranges to been difference makers. It's the same, picks are picks, where it's for a player or for a coach.

AsylumGuido · 01-29-2023, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Absolutely, if I thought he was going to build my team up to compete for a SB.And have those players you compare apples and oranges to been difference makers. It's the same, picks are picks, where it's for a player or for a coach.

Yeah, build your team up with what? You just shipped off your best upcoming picks for no player in return. LOL!

So, you are actually expecting a team to give us at least two 1st rounders then, right? Yes or no?

halloween 65 · 01-29-2023, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yeah, build your team up with what? You just shipped off your best upcoming picks for no player in return. LOL!

So, you are actually expecting a team to give us at least two 1st rounders then, right? Yes or no?

Uhhhh, yeah, that's Lommy"s asking price. And I'm glad he's asking it. I hope he don't drop it next season either. It just goes to show what those 2fers do to a team. Payton bailed and if I was Loomy I wouldn't budge.And as far as the 2 for 1 deal goes I'll simplify things for you: If i had 2 dollars and the asking price for a coach or player was $2 asking price and I decide to pay it for either I'm out $2 either way. Simple math. Same rules apply to picks or money. And the only team that can afford Lommy"s asking price is Houston. Also goes to show how much power Payton really has.

01-28-2023, 02:32 PM	#351
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by SmashMouth Not that he didn't actually have that very same freedom here with the Saints ... Maybe other teams noticed and are unwilling to let him have free reign. We all see what shape SP left the Saints in. Loomis has to figure in some of what we see. Perhaps he sees more than we think we see from afar. But, we are all experts in NFL management, so there's that.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,887	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Perhaps he sees more than we think we see from afar. But, we are all experts in NFL management, so there's that. "Ye shall know them by their fruits." ~ Matthew 7:16 "Faith without works is dead." ~ James 2:14
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,127 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...00428379414528 Pay up, BABY!!! Twitter saintsfan1976 and halloween 65 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by SmashMouth Pay up, BABY!!! https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...34993349054464 I wish! But, nobody is going to give two first rounders. That would be beyond foolish. If you ran a franchise would you fork over your next two first rounders plus others for Payton instead of just signing some other head coach for draft compensation? Saints fans would freak out if the shoe was on the other foot.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I wish! But, nobody is going to give two first rounders. That would be beyond foolish. If you ran a franchise would you fork over your next two first rounders plus others for Payton instead of just signing some other head coach for draft compensation? Saints fans would freak out if the shoe was on the other foot. Same thing as us giving 2 1st for players. Now are you freaking out on that? Draft compensation is draft compensation!! Still looking thru those rose colored glasses now?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by halloween 65 Same thing as us giving 2 1st for players. Now are you freaking out on that? Draft compensation is draft compensation!! Still looking thru those rose colored glasses now? Trading up two lower value 1st's for a single equivalent value first to obtain a player that you feel is worth the value is not compensation. Apples and oranges, halloween. Would you happily trade two 1sts and other picks for a coach? Honestly. Oh, and I'm not freaking out either way. LOL!

01-29-2023, 01:09 PM	#358
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Trading up two lower value 1st's for a single equivalent value first to obtain a player that you feel is worth the value is not compensation. Apples and oranges, halloween. Would you happily trade two 1sts and other picks for a coach? Honestly. Oh, and I'm not freaking out either way. LOL! Absolutely, if I thought he was going to build my team up to compete for a SB.And have those players you compare apples and oranges to been difference makers. It's the same, picks are picks, where it's for a player or for a coach.

01-29-2023, 01:49 PM	#359
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by halloween 65 Absolutely, if I thought he was going to build my team up to compete for a SB.And have those players you compare apples and oranges to been difference makers. It's the same, picks are picks, where it's for a player or for a coach. Yeah, build your team up with what? You just shipped off your best upcoming picks for no player in return. LOL! So, you are actually expecting a team to give us at least two 1st rounders then, right? Yes or no?

01-29-2023, 02:01 PM	#360
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Cards, Texans permitted to interview Sean Payton Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yeah, build your team up with what? You just shipped off your best upcoming picks for no player in return. LOL! So, you are actually expecting a team to give us at least two 1st rounders then, right? Yes or no? Uhhhh, yeah, that's Lommy"s asking price. And I'm glad he's asking it. I hope he don't drop it next season either. It just goes to show what those 2fers do to a team. Payton bailed and if I was Loomy I wouldn't budge.And as far as the 2 for 1 deal goes I'll simplify things for you: If i had 2 dollars and the asking price for a coach or player was $2 asking price and I decide to pay it for either I'm out $2 either way. Simple math. Same rules apply to picks or money. And the only team that can afford Lommy"s asking price is Houston. Also goes to show how much power Payton really has.